Thanks for the help.

James

On Feb 19, 2020 02:56, jrh...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, here's one explicit HOL Light realization of Konrad's solution:

  let POLYNOMIAL_DEGREE_COEFFS =
    let th = prove
     (`?m c. !p. polynomial_function p
                 ==> !x. p x = sum(0..m p) (\i. c p i * x pow i)`,
      REWRITE_TAC[GSYM SKOLEM_THM] THEN MESON_TAC[polynomial_function]) in
    REWRITE_RULE[RIGHT_IMP_FORALL_THM]
     (new_specification ["polynomial_degree"; "polynomial_coeffs"] th);;

This gives you the following theorem

  val POLYNOMIAL_DEGREE_COEFFS : thm =
    |- !p x.
         polynomial_function p
         ==> p x =
             sum (0..polynomial_degree p)
             (\i. polynomial_coeffs p i * x pow i)

Instead of this direct Skolemization you could instead choose to define these
concepts in a more refined way with minimal degree and coefficients having
a zero tail, something like this:

  let polynomial_deg = new_definition
   `polynomial_deg p =
      minimal m. ?c. !x. p x = sum(0..m) (\i. c i * x pow i)`;;

  let polynomial_cfs = new_definition
   `polynomial_cfs p =
      \i. if i <= polynomial_deg p
          then (@c. !x. p x = sum(0..polynomial_deg p) (\i. c i * x pow i)) i
          else &0`;;

  let POLYNOMIAL_DEG_CFS = prove
   (`!p x. polynomial_function p
           ==> p x =
               sum (0..polynomial_deg p) (\i. polynomial_cfs p i * x pow i)`,
    REPEAT GEN_TAC THEN REWRITE_TAC[polynomial_function] THEN
    GEN_REWRITE_TAC LAND_CONV [MINIMAL] THEN
    REWRITE_TAC[GSYM polynomial_deg] THEN
    DISCH_THEN(MP_TAC o SELECT_RULE o CONJUNCT1) THEN
    DISCH_THEN(fun th -> GEN_REWRITE_TAC LAND_CONV [th]) THEN
    MATCH_MP_TAC SUM_EQ_NUMSEG THEN SIMP_TAC[polynomial_cfs]);;

But the main point is again that once you've got this and maybe a few
other lemmas, you probably don't need much if any manual handling of
select-terms at all.

John.


On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 5:09 PM Konrad Slind 
<konrad.sl...@gmail.com<mailto:konrad.sl...@gmail.com>> wrote:
If you have |- !p. ?m c. ... as a theorem, then you are set up to use constant 
specification. Just have to apply SKOLEM_THM to move the existentials out to 
the top level .

Konrad.


On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 4:33 PM Norrish, Michael (Data61, Acton) 
<michael.norr...@data61.csiro.au<mailto:michael.norr...@data61.csiro.au>> wrote:
Maybe use the choice function to select a pair. I.e., write

    @(m,c). .....

?

Michael

On 19 Feb 2020, at 09:30, 
"jpe...@student.bham.ac.uk<mailto:jpe...@student.bham.ac.uk>" 
<jpe...@student.bham.ac.uk<mailto:jpe...@student.bham.ac.uk>> wrote:


Hi

This is a question about using the select operator @ to return multiple values 
which depend on each other in HOL Light.

For example when working with polynomial_function defined as 
polynomial_function p <=> ?m c. !x. p x = sum(0..m) (\i. c i * x pow i)​  it 
might be useful to be able to use the @ operator to return the upper bound m 
and the coefficient function c, however as the choice of m depends on c and 
visa versa you cannot use 2 separate select statements. (e.g. if m > degree(p) 
then c(n) must be 0 for degree(p)<n<=m )

What is the best way to approach this? Is there a way to return both of the 
values or would they have to be "combined together" inside the select statement?

 Thanks

James
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