--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Lob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello Steve Toth,
> 
> 
> >      I'm trying to get a sense of what is needed. The main skill 
in 
> >poetry is listening not writing.  It's the reader that brings the 
> >poem to life & supplies the meaning.  I meet people who say they 
want 
> >to write poetry, but then they want to knock the reader out.  
> 
> Understood
> 
> :-)
> 
> Poetry is not the only component of the peace wiki
> Listen for the poetry
> but perhaps knock us out elsewhere than at the poetry component
> 
> :-)
> 
> 
> >Listening is important, because the ego doesn't like to listen or 
pay 
> >attention.  It likes to get attention & the less ego involved the 
> >better.  If other people in the project can see where I can help 
with 
> >what is needed & let me know that would help.
> 
> Go here
> http://peace.wikicities.com/index.php/Main_Page
> 
> and have a go at the featured tasks :-)
> 
> 
> 
> >*****I like to see what they will draw out of me.  They're 
teaching 
> >me about the world as it is today.  I don't throw them off, I put 
> >them on moderation & delete their messages.  They don't like 
that.  
> >They seem to want to be thrown off & so I resist doing that.  That 
> >may be a bit of competition on my part too, like playing play 
ground 
> >basketball but working on your verbal moves.
> 
> good game
> 
> Anything to do with Sufism?

:) 

> 
> 
> >*****No you can't get through to them consciously, but maybe they 
> >will draw something out unconsiously that will be helpful to them 
> >later.
> 
> They?
> We are 'they'
> 
> :-)

:))

> 
>  
> 
> >****We have Hafizullah & some other Sufis.  Some are not talking 
> >right now, but there are some new ones like Sabine.  She'a the one 
> >who told you to keep your hair to yourself.  I see the list as 
> >belonging to members like Hafizullah & Yosy.  I see my role as a 
kind 
> >of busboy who serves drinks when epople get thristy.
> 
> Did she?
> :-)
> I remember Sabine
> - the comment about hair must
> have been directed at my subconscious . . .
> as I do not remember it
> 
> :-)
> 
> Who decided Hafizullah is a Sufi? Another  'they' perhaps . . . 
> 
> You have a few dervishes, trolls, an unquentionable
> thirst . . .



:) there are also few hundred lurkers, some of which 'unlurk' 
occasinally with gems showing that there are at least some who pay 
attention and benefit... not to mention that even in the silliest 
discussions there is an oportunity to observe and learn how our 
conditioning, masquerading as 'knowledge' etc operates.

and "thirst makes the water holy"


> 
> Maybe that is sufficient?


inshallah...

 
> Good luck with it and good luck to them
> who are they . . . 
> 
> :-)
> 
> 
> Lob


lol

"who? when? where? why?"

nothing arises
nothing subsides
only "is"
one
boundless
"i"
...

yosy





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