Hi, 

" I don't think my wife would want a lossy network in our house ;^)" : 

Nobody wants a lossy network, but the technology you are using may create lossy 
links...

I may have miss something in the Homenet scope.

In the scope of Homenet, is every device in the house runing over a *robust* 
link (Bit Error Rate below 1 % at the PHY level) ?

Furthermore do these devices could have some high Power/Computation/Size/Cost 
constraints ?

I fail to see the kind of technologies and devices that are targeting.

Thanks for the clarification.

Cédric .

-----Message d'origine-----
De : Acee Lindem [mailto:acee.lin...@ericsson.com] 
Envoyé : jeudi 29 septembre 2011 16:44
À : Fred Baker
Cc : Mark Townsley; C Chauvenet; Pascal Thubert (pthubert); MANET IETF; 
homenet@ietf.org; rt...@ietf.org
Objet : Re: [homenet] Question for you

I'm in complete agreement with Fred. The areas where the existing link-state 
protocols may need to be extended are auto-configuration and, potentially, 
inter-area policies.  
I don't think my wife would want a lossy network in our house ;^) Thanks, Acee 
On Sep 28, 2011, at 11:43 AM, Fred Baker wrote:

> 
> On Sep 28, 2011, at 5:58 PM, Mark Townsley wrote:
> 
>> Since you asked, *I* think that a homenet has functional overlap (what I 
>> called "at least a smaller and slightly different subset" in my email) in 
>> terms of requirements to LLNs. At first blush, it looks like RPL has lots of 
>> functionality - perhaps more than we really need for homenet, and by your 
>> own admission more than you need for LLN's - but will hold reservation on 
>> what I think best fits the bill until we see Fred's analysis, hear from 
>> others, etc. 
> 
> My two yen, which may be all it's worth...
> 
> If I were a Linksys/D-Link/NetGear/* product manager asking about what 
> protocols to put in, I wouldn't be asking about what still exists in Internet 
> Drafts and is thought by the engineers designing it to be better than sliced 
> bread, but about what was inexpensive to implement, likely to be close to 
> bug-free, and definitively accomplished the goal. I note that most routers 
> for the IPv4 residential routing marketplace implement RIPv2; I know of one 
> that implements no routing protocol, one that implements RIPv2 and RIPv1 (!), 
> and one that implements RIPv2 and OSPF (don't ask which they are, I don't 
> remember). This is from a google search of residential routers a few months 
> ago and covered perhaps 20 products from half as many vendors. So my first 
> inclination is to say that for a residential IPv6 network, RIPng is probably 
> an image match for those vendors.
> 
> I have a personal bias in the direction of OSPF or IS-IS; I think that once 
> the code is debugged, SPF-based protocols are more stable (no 
> count-to-infinity), given a reasonable set of defaults generate far more 
> stable networks, and definitively know when there is more than one router on 
> a LAN, which can be important in subnet distribution. 
> 
> My first choice would NOT be something that isn't proven in the field in 
> multiple interoperable implementations. 
> 
> As a person thinking about making a recommendation, I'd suggest that folks 
> read https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2026#section-4.1.2 and ask themselves why 
> that level of interoperability isn't mandatory.
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