Hi Tony, I agree. I would like to mention that we are specifying an extensible, flexible (using TLVs) LS protocol in the MANET WG: OLSRv2. I think that we are not far from submitting it to the IESG. OLSRv2 could well operate on home devices with limited resources, and does not have the issues of RIP.
Regards Ulrich On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Tony Li <tony...@tony.li> wrote: > > The problem with a RIP like protocol is that it will have RIP like > convergence properties. IMHO, that's no longer acceptable. > > Doing a subset of a LS protocol with a trivial default configuration should > not be unreasonable. > > Tony > > > On Oct 3, 2011, at 8:58 AM, Randy Turner wrote: > > > > > I would hope that we would NOT be seriously considering OSPF or IS-IS in > the home...this seems like using a sledgehammer to kill an ant. How many > routes are we talking about for a home network? I don't believe any > enterprise routing protocol was designed for a "zeroconf" or "zeroadmin" > type of environment. Our customers won't even know what an IP address is. > > > > Seems like a "RIP-like" (around the same scope of complexity) would be > enough for a homenet. I'm curious to see what comes out of the LLN > discussion. > > > > The "filter" for any of these decisions should probably always be a > "zeroconf" or "zeroadmin" scenario -- if a proposed approach to a problem > can't exist in a "zeroconf/admin" environment, then I would think it would > not be the right choice. Also, as a "first cut" solution, we I think we > should be focused on the 80% use-case, not the fringe. The participants of > this working group, and their respective home networking setups, are > probably not our "typical" customer. > > > > Randy > > > > > > On Oct 3, 2011, at 8:33 AM, Qiong wrote: > > > >> Hi, Acee, > >> > >> Agree. I think the HOMENET requirements should be derived from major > devices in the home network scenario. Maybe currently we should firstly > focus on multiple router scenario for traditional fixed and wireless network > for multiple services (especially WiFi) , and then introduce LLN network as > well for smart objects in the same environment, together with the homenet > architecture and new model in the future. > >> > >> Best wishes > >> > >> Qiong > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> I think a viable option for 2012 is that if the LLN networks with their > smart objects have to connect to the traditional HOMENET fixed and wireless > networks, they will need to do so through a border router supporting both > environments. IMHO, we don't need one protocol that meets all requirements > for every possible device in the home. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Acee > >> > >> > >> > >> > > >> >> > >> >> My first choice would NOT be something that isn't proven in the field > in multiple interoperable implementations. > >> >> > >> >> As a person thinking about making a recommendation, I'd suggest that > folks read https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2026#section-4.1.2 and ask > themselves why that level of interoperability isn't mandatory. > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> homenet mailing list > >> >> homenet@ietf.org > >> >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/homenet > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > homenet mailing list > >> > homenet@ietf.org > >> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/homenet > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> homenet mailing list > >> homenet@ietf.org > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/homenet > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> homenet mailing list > >> homenet@ietf.org > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/homenet > > > > _______________________________________________ > > rtgwg mailing list > > rt...@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtgwg > > _______________________________________________ > manet mailing list > ma...@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet >
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