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On Mar 6, 2012, at 11:00 AM, Jim Gettys <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 03/06/2012 01:49 PM, Dave Taht wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 10:23 AM, james woodyatt <[email protected]
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>>    On Mar 6, 2012, at 07:15 , Michael Richardson <[email protected]
>>    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> "Mark" == Mark Andrews <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>    writes:
>>>   Mark> A significant percentage of home machines will roam and
>>    those
>>>   Mark> machines will need to be able to register their current
>>>   Mark> address in the DNS.  I do this today when my Mac roams.
>>     TSIG
>>>   Mark> is unavoidable and cheap.  UPDATE itself is relatively
>>    cheap.
>>> 
>>> Are you asking for a link-local/mDNS-across-the-homenet
>>    leap-of-faith
>>> way to do key establishment so that TSIG can be initialized?
>> 
>> 
>>    The alternative is to delegate all that business to 3rd parties
>>    with big data centers in the proverbial cloud.  Yes, that means
>>    that you're relying on Internet service to be constantly available
>>    to resolve service locations on your local home network, but it
>>    does seem to work reasonably well today.
>> 
>> 
>> In some parts of the world, maybe, like california.
>> 
>> Elsewhere, say in Nicaragua... not so much. I would personally prefer
>> that those designing this stuff with *any* dependencies on centralized
>> services spend some time doing research in south america, Libya,
>> africa, eastern europe, the australian outback, and places like that...
>> 
>> 
> 
> Or Peru, or Uruguay, or Uganda, or.... (given my OLPC experience).
> 
> I have to emphasise what Dave's saying here: requiring centralised
> services to work at all is really a non-starter, not to mention what
> happens when things break in the developed world. 
> 
> What's more, in those parts of the world, they can't afford either the
> reliable connectivity or expensive kit in schools/houses and often use
> off the shelf commodity home routers even in places we'd probably do
> something much better.  My point of view is to do it right in the home,
> so everyone benefits at the low end.
>                - Jim
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