On Oct 14, 2014, at 2:19 PM, James Woodyatt <j...@nestlabs.com> wrote:
> On the topic of the original question, if I were to editorialize here, then I 
> would want to see something like this:

I get that you have an opinion on this, but you haven't actually stated any 
argument to support what you think we should do.   And there are some 
implications in what you are saying that I don't think are necessary.

> A) An autonomously generated ULA prefix SHOULD be advertised when no other 
> delegated prefix is valid.

OK, although underspecified.

> B) Whenever there is any valid delegated prefix, advertisements for an 
> existing autonomously generated ULA prefix MUST be deprecated, i.e. updated 
> with preferred lifetime of zero.

Why?   What problem does this solve?   Given that it's going to mean additional 
work, there should be some benefit to doing it.

> C) A deprecated autonomously generated ULA prefix MUST be withdrawn when it 
> expires, i.e. its valid time reaches zero.

Okay, given that a prefix expires, it should be withdrawn, whether it's a ULA 
or a GUA.

> D) Whenever there is no longer any valid delegated prefix, advertisements for 
> a previously deprecated autonomously generated ULA prefix MUST be updated 
> with non-zero preferred lifetime.

OK, but seems like unnecessary work.   You're essentially recapitulating the 
brokenness of IPv4 zeroconf.

> The idea here is to make sure IPv6 applications can generally rely on home 
> network interior routers to forward traffic among the multiple links in the 
> home, regardless of whether any first-mile Internet services are provisioned, 
> configured and operational, i.e. there shall always be at least one preferred 
> global scope network prefix, and there shall be an autonomously generated 
> local prefix available as a last resort whenever there are no valid delegated 
> prefixes.

This is where I am just completely puzzled.   We talked about this previously.  
 I thought the idea was that the homenet ULA should converge: that there should 
only be one, ultimately, and that when there are two, routing should still 
work.  You are stating this as if the ULAs are per-subnet of a homenet, and 
that routing across homenet routers using ULAs isn't supported.

If you really think that's how this should work, I can see why you want to 
deprecate them.   But that's not how they should work.

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