On 01.08.2017 23:15, Ted Lemon wrote:
I addressed that question in a previous reply. Your home network does not have the equivalent security to letsencrypt.org <http://letsencrypt.org>'s certificate signing infrastructure (I hope!!).that is not the question, the question is: is it possible to use some self signed certificates without trust anchor installed, in the near future?
by the way how would you distinguish between LAN and WAN in an IPv6 world? in an IPv4 world it is done by RFC1918 addresses ...
Installing a trust anchor means that trust anchor has signing authority for any name---there's no way to install one that doesn't.
there is a way, look at this one:
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I mean, honestly, if it were possible to get a CA to just issue certificates for "www.home.arpa" on request with no validation, I think that would be a better answer both from a security perspective and a usability perspective, but it's not a /good/ answer, and I don't think it's possible anyway.
exakt this was the intention of my inital thoughts
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