Steve, Occasionally, I have the opportunity to double on trumpet and horn when playing at the high holy days at the Cathedral in Newark. As long as the parts don't go high (I always play as the 3rd trumpet, I'm pretty much okay). As you might expect this often requires picking up the trumpet with no warm-up and immediately going back to playing the horn. A few years ago when at the Schilke booth at the the Midwest Band and Orchestra clinic, I described my issue with them and they quickly pointed to a mouthpiece. I looked at it and it had similar inner dimesions to a very high horn mouthpiece (or an alto horn mouthpiece) with a trumpet rim. At first, I thought it was a cornet mouthpiece due to the lenght, but the salesman quickly pointed out that it was indeed a trumpet mouthpiece, and it had to be significantly shorter because it would play very flat for a trumpet player. Ironically the mouthpiece was designed for trumpet players who specialize on high parts who have significant iss ues when playing in the low register. With this mouthpiece they can play with a nice tone on the low notes of the trumpet.
I find that I can switch quickly back and forth with this mouthpiece (you may also try a variety of rotary valve trumpet mouthpieces designed for professional orchestral players - I have some success with these as well. With my limited experience, I would recommend NOT using a horn mouthpiece with an adapter. The rim is simply too narrow for the trumpet, the trumpet players use the cushioned rim for good reason. My two cents - and worth about that much. Chris >>> Steve Freides 07/31/10 10:17 AM >>> I intend to keep playing both, so I'm just trying to educate myself. I wish I had a better formed question(s) than I do, truth be told. I'm trying to make switching work as well as possible without "cheating", e.g., if using a certain mpc on the trumpet makes switching easier but will hinder certain aspects of trumpet playing, that's the kind of thing I want to know and to avoid - better switching should be harder than I should end up slighting my playing on the second instrument. It seems that this all boils down to personal preference, and maybe I've already got all the info I need. Time to ask less and practice more for me. -S- On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Debbie Schmidt wrote: > What are you trying to do? Are you trying to learn from horn players about > trumpet mpcs? Are you trying to make an easier transition to trumpet , will > you be switching between the two horns ? > If you are looking for technical info google "mouthpiece comparison chart" > and either horn or trumpet. That should give you a better idea. > In general trumpet players start on Bach mpcs and many of my colleagues still > play Bach's. Like horn there are a myriad of speciality mouthpiece > manufactures . > > > > Debbie Schmidt Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 31, 2010, at 9:49 AM, Steve Freides wrote: > >> On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Kerri Bridges wrote: >>> Matt's email made just want to chime in. I had the same problem when I >>> first >>> started playing horn in addition to the clarinet. I could play each >>> instrument in separate sittings but trying to switch between both in a >>> single sitting didn't work. My ' F' ear would be gone and if I did hit the >>> right notes on the horn, they'd be even more sharper than normal. >>> >>> It's probably not just an engineer thing. I noticed that most musical pit >>> books double on the winds or brass (minus horn) while horn is in its own >>> book. >>> >>> Kerri (now 90% horn, 10% clarinet) >> >> I haven't tried to play both back to back just yet, but I'm one of >> those geeks who reads everything at concert pitch so I don't expect >> that part of it to be too difficult for me. Horn is mezzo-soprano >> clef and one additional flat, trumpet is tenor clef and two additional >> flats. (I know, it would drive some of you crazy to read this way. >> Rest assured that the drive to crazy is a very short trip in my case.) >> >> Back to my original question: I know that trumpet and horn mpc's have >> very different shapes, but it would be helpful to know a few things >> about measurements or dimensions that are comparable, e.g., I'm >> getting the feeling that, generally speaking, French Horn mpc rim >> diameters might be similar but a little larger than trumpet - is that >> a fair generalization to make? It's sounding like it might be time >> for me to know the actual dimension of the horn mpc I play, which is >> made by esteemed list member Herr Pizka, and how different or not that >> one is from a 'normal' horn mpc as well. >> >> A possibly unrelated observation: I have picked the horn and mpc I >> play because, at my stage of development, the most important >> characteristic isn't what make me necessarily sound best, but what I >> feel offers me the most feedback about my playing technique. Hans' >> mouthpiece, for me, seems to offer both better and worse playing than >> I got from other mpcs I tried, and that feels like a good thing as I >> try to improve. I own two horns and the one I play on is, without a >> doubt, the worse of the two, but I find that when I play on the better >> one for a few weeks, my playing gets worse, almost as if I start >> letting the horn do some of the work for me. >> >> I have no idea if any of the above makes any sense, but that is how it >> seems to me. We now return you to your previously scheduled >> programming. :) >> >> -S- >> >> -S- >> _______________________________________________ >> post: [email protected] >> unsubscribe or set options at >> https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/jasoncat%40aol.com > _______________________________________________ > post: [email protected] > unsubscribe or set options at > https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/steve.freides%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ post: [email protected] unsubscribe or set options at https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/cwilhjelm%40pascack.k12.nj.us _______________________________________________ post: [email protected] unsubscribe or set options at https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
