Thank you to everyone who participated in this. My concern is not with
experienced hornists, who I am sure will not buy such a horn by mistake,
but it is for the well-meaning but ignorant parent or grand-parent,
aunt,  uncle, or neighbor  who might waste their money buying such an
instrument for a child, only to discover that it is of no use in today's
school band or orchestra. Unless some one else beats me to it, that is
why I send this informative note to EBAY sellers who don't know the
difference: 
"This is not a French horn. It is a mellophone, a type of alto horn made
to resemble a French horn. They were commonly used in bands in the late
19th and early 20th centuries. They are no longer used and are
considered obsolete.
You can tell the difference by the mouthpiece. If it is larger than a
French horn mouthpiece, it is a mellophone. Piston valves, which your
horn has, are usual with mellophones, and rare with French horns, which
usually have rotary valves. The horizontal orientation of the second
valve slide is common in mellophones, and is almost never seen in a
French horns. Also horns are usually played with the left hand, and
mellophones with the right."

Almost always I receive a note of appreciatuon in return; and usually
the listing is modified. Only twice have I received maledictions. 
 
It may not be entirely correct, and I welcome suggestions for
improvements to my message. I intend to post this as a users guide on
EBAY, along with my guide on how to pack a horn for shippimg. 
 
I have a Cavalier mello made by Conn which was given to me by a viola
player on which I once played a solo arrangement, with band, of an
opertatic aria from the 19th century as a demonstration in a concerrt
celebrating a centennial of music in a small town in north-eastern
Washington. The reasons why the horn has supplanted the mello became
obvious. It is possible to play them in tune, but not always easily, and
the tone quality, is of course, coarse.

Carl Bangs
Fenwick Parva Press
http://www.fenwickparva.com
 
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Subject: [SPAM] [horn] Re: J W York&Sons Silver Plated French Horn on
EBAY
From: "Dana T" <[email protected]>
Date: Sat, August 14, 2010 6:51 am
To: [email protected]

  Carl, I know you mean to be helpful, and I certainly am not going to
discourage you from contacting sellers to help correct their
information-I myself do it from time to time. The reality is that there
are so many of these mellophones out there that have been listed as
"French Horns" that to attempt to get every seller to correct their
listing would take more time than most of us have available. I see these
in other auction listings every day (not just Ebay), right along with
incorrect listings for everything else under the sun. Someone the other
day listed a 3-valve post horn in the musical antiques section as a
rare, civil war rotary valve cornet. You could even see in the pictures
where the leather wrapping had been removed. Further, it had modern
(clearly 20th century) mechanical linkage on the valves. The seller
thanked me for my information but continued the listing without
correction and without putting the Q&A in the listing. Some
sellers/auctioneers/dealers appreciate the correction, some don't want
to be bothered, some even seem to feel threatened when approached. I've
come to the conclusion that I have better things to do with my time. If
I see a listing that is grossly misrepresenting something (like an
extremely rare stradivarious hand horn from 1865) I might say something,
otherwise I figure that those who need to know the correct information,
such as collectors and players, already do. As with everything on
Ebay-buyer beware. Frankly, I NEVER take the seller's word for anything
they are selling. If I don't know what it is, and I'm not willing to
risk that I may be buying a white elephant, then I don't buy. Period.

Dana Twiss



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