Dick,

I have one of these. The serial number is located on the second valve casing 
facing the levers. The second valve is actually the third one down from the 
top of the valve assembly. My serial number is 294565. Except for worn 
lacquer, my horn is in good shape , and plays well. This is the type 
supposedly played by John Graas.  The Olds label is stamped on the outside 
circumference of the rim. I have the original Olds guarantee card. The type 
is rubber stamped in the card as  follows:" O-49 Olds Five Valve Nic. Silver 
FRENCH HORN". The lead pipe, bell and first branch are nickel silver. BTW, 
mine came with one of the (in)-famous orange-brown molded cases.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Dick Martz
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 11:13 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Hornlist] F.E. Olds 5-valve single B-flat

Hi, horners
I received a message from a horn player in France, inquiring about an F.E. 
Olds 5-valve single B-flat horn. It is obviously based on the design by 
Sansone. I don't have any direct experience with Olds horns so all I've been 
able to do is piece together a few 
facts:http://www.rjmartz.com/horns/Olds5Valve/

The owner states that there is no serial number to be found on this horn. 
Where would it normally be located? Unfortunately the photo of the bell 
label is unclear, but the owner states that it says FE Olds & Son, 
Fullerton, Calif.  I might guess that the peculiar rectangular finger plates 
would help establish a date of manufacture. They don't appear in any of the 
photos of other Olds horns I've been able to find.
Any info would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Dick Martz
http://www.rjmartz.com/horns  Horn Collection
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