That's just great to hear because, like Hans intimated, the situation was
one that could have been disastrous. I'm just glad your colleague took the
criticism in stride and understood your point of view. Sounds like the kinda
guy that would make a decent friend, even if he is a clarinet player.

Cheers,
Conja

On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 10:17, M Bender <[email protected]> wrote:

> Many thanks to those on the list who expressed ideas concerning the twitchy
> clarinet player.
>
> After yesterday's rehearsal, I approached him, and brought up the issue
> using the "impossible-to-follow-two-conductors-at-the-same-time" analogy. I
> gave him a specific example [including the words "takt" and "ictus"] and
> added that the "cues" he was giving were at times, actually anticipatory--
> which is very distracting for all those sitting behind and beside him. He
> was a bit startled at first, [perhaps, erroneously concluding that I
> possessed an encyclopedic knowledge of conducting technique?!] but then
> apologized profusely, telling me that while he WAS aware of it, he didn't
> always have the presence of mind to restrict his movements. He even went so
> far as to tell me that if it happens again to please mention it to him,
> [YES!] as he didn't want to be the cause of tentative/wrong entries due to
> his movements confusing or distracting other players in the wind section. We
> had a quick laugh about "performance nervousness or nervous ticks" [thanks
> Hans!] then went for a beer af
>  ter [thanks Conja!] with no apparent hard feelings.
>
> While I'm no master of diplomacy or negotiation, I do feel that the point
> was made, and no one was injured in the process. Of course, time will tell,
> but I'm optimistic.
>
> I'm keeping the video option close at hand, just in case we have to move to
> level two. [thanks David G.!]
>
> Again, my sincere thanks to all.
>
> Sincerely,
> martin bender
>
>
> On 2011-04-04, at 9:23 AM, Bill Tyler wrote:
>
> > The eternal mezzo forte.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On Mon, 4/4/11, Larry Jellison <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > From: Larry Jellison <[email protected]>
> > Subject: [Hornlist] Amateur Ensemble worst peeve
> > To: [email protected]
> > Date: Monday, April 4, 2011, 1:12 AM
> >
> > I can't control myself any longer from asking this question, after
> reading all
> > these suggestions about the irritating clarinet player.
> >
> > The question:  What bugs you the most about playing in an amateur
> ensemble?
> >
> > For me, it is the conductor who is happy to see anyone walk in with a
> French
> > horn, and welcomes them without auditioning them or questioning them
> about their
> > playing ability.  Often these are ex-trumpet or ex-trombone players, or
> > ex-French horn players just returning to playing and have no embouchure
> > development.  Somehow these "hornists"  think it is just fine for them to
> join
> > the horn section when they can't play or can barely play.  Why is it that
> > possessing a French horn gives these folks such  immediate chutzpah?  I
> have
> > resorted to much complaining to the conductors over this.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Larry
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