Perhaps the most responsive horn I have played is a very old Raoux cor solo.  
It has no ring when one strikes the bell and so would fail any "thunk" test.  
And yet the bell responds magnificently to the slightest vibrating air column.  
I think that the test is how the horn plays, not how the bell responds when 
struck like a cymbal.

Tom Reicher


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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Brass Arts Unlimited
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 10:19 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Hornlist] Bell "ringing" - what does it mean?

Howard wrote: "I don't want to cut the bell on my N series 8D because the
bell rings
forever. I suspect cutting it would destroy that. I remember one day
up in Boonsboro Walter Lawson was telling me how their bells ring
better than others. He whacked my N series 8D's bell with his finger,
and it probably still hasn't quit ringing. He was visibly shaken, and
immediately stopped telling me about that aspect of his bells'
superiority!"

I have always had enormous respect for Walter and his work, but this is one
thing I could never understand.  What does a ringing bell flare mean?  What
does the old "thunk test" prove?  You could whack a steel mixing bowl and it
work ring for a week.  But would that bowl make a good horn bell?  And, all
other things being relatively equal, what would it tell you about a flare
that rung and rung versus one that seemed dead when you whacked it?  You
don't whack a horn to get the sound out.  You vibrate the air column.  If a
bell just kept ringing and ringing, would that not actually interfere with
attacks, or with notes speaking, when playing runs?  And if not, why not?

I'm sure that a certain amount of "ringing" is probably good for a bell
flare to have, but isn't possible to have too much of a good thing?  I still
haven't puzzled this out, and I sure would appreciate some enlightenment.
No one I've talked with about this can give me a satisfactory explanation,
and I'd love to have one.

--
*Regards,

Dave Weiner
Brass Arts Unlimited*
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