Hello Molly & others, this comparison, well, is not the right one, because there is more. You can compare things at a two dimensional base plus a bit more, as you did. This would be comparable with A=415 to 443 or even 445.
Red as a single color can be darker verse violet with many different steps, or brighter running verse yellow with another many different steps. This would apply to fine tuning. Then there is a third dimension influencing color & sound. These components are dynamics in the acoustics & density with the different colors. And finally we have a forth dimension, which also influences the perception of sound/tuning or colors as well: expression & mixing sounds & colors. And we also have to think about the influence of speed: the duration of a single note or the time we can look at a painting or simply at paint. If it is going to the arts, things are getting more complicated again. Recognizing family members is a very complicated performance of our brain. May I give you an example, an actual sample from today: my granddaughter of 23 months is here & I showed her family pictures on the wall, pictures nobody had told her about before. She has seen her aunt four or five times before only. Her aunt, our daughter was very slim as a child, but she is very compact now & tall. Nevertheless, our little one recognized her sponrtaneously as "Kumi" (nickname), recognized myself even on pictures over 30 years old, recognized her grand mother when she was 40 years younger. What a complex thinking process might that be, special for a 23 months old. It means, that these little kids brain works as our camera computers, storing certain patterns, be used for recognition. Perhaps, music might work the same. I just have an acquired perfect pitch. ################################################## Am 12.05.2011 um 15:31 schrieb Molly White: > This follows my theory (totally untested & unencumbered by the thought > process) that pitch recognition ought to work like color recognition. Unless > color blind, I think most people would agree that there are many shades of > any given color. Why not many shades of any given pitch? Molly > > On May 12, 2011 7:56 AM, "Steve Freides" <[email protected]> wrote: > > That's the rub - I can accommodate A = 415 and still not get freaked > out, but I can also tell 440 from anything near but not quite right. > > For me, perfect pitch is more about memory than skill, if that makes > sense. People don't think twice about, e.g., remembering what the > face of a family member looks like - you just assume you'll recognize > it when you encounter it. Music works much the same way for me. I > just recognize what I hear as something familiar, and music in Eb just > sounds like that, and music in another key just sounds like that, and > so on - not really any different from being able to tell the faces or > voice of my kids apart. > > I recall sitting one time with Chris Wilhjelm at a French Horn lesson > - he adjusted a tuning slide on my horn but the same pitch came out > both before and after the adjustment because I kept making it sound > like I thought it should sound. For me, it's important at this point > in my horn playing to turn that sort of thing _off_. > > I hope that's of some help - the only other thing worth mentioning, > but it's important, is that there are many, many "flavors" of perfect > pitch - when I used to talk with others about it in college, we'd > start a conversation saying, "I hear that passage like this ...." and > expecting the other person to say, "Yes, it works that way for me, > too" but it often didn't. In the end, however, because we all > functioned more or less the same to those without perfect pitch, > people just assumed we all heard everything in exactly the same way, > which we didn't. Rather along the lines of "All <insert race or ethic > group here> look alike to me." :) So how it works for me isn't > necessarily how it will work for someone else with perfect pitch, > e.g., someone else may have a tough time with A=415 but it seems not > to bother me, for whatever reason. > > -S- > > > On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 8:40 AM, Milton Kicklighter > <[email protected]> wrote: >> Interesting S... >> unsubscribe or set options at > https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/steve.freides%40gmail.com > >> > _______________________________________________ > post: [email protected] > unsubscribe or set options ... > _______________________________________________ > post: [email protected] > unsubscribe or set options at > https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/hpizka%40me.com _______________________________________________ post: [email protected] unsubscribe or set options at https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
