Even more -- the tongue trill, lips aimed for the middle of the two 
notes, and inert -- is instant start, stable, and very fast.  Does 
anyone use it?

David G

On 7/4/2011 12:13 PM, Milton Kicklighter wrote:
> Well I am sure the subject has gone far enough and the "stop the note with 
> the tongue" as opposed to the "don't use the tongue to stop the note" has 
> reached a new high.
>   
> I would share something that I discovered while driving down to North 
> Carolina for my sons wedding.  Something I have been doing all of my life and 
> had just taken for granted.  Is it not amazing how long one can live without 
> realizing how we do something!!
>   
> Well anyway, I had been doing my usual lip buzzing mouthpiece buzzing and was 
> just about all buzzed out... not to be confused with having a buss on :)"... 
> when I started to whistle a happy tune.  I discovered a long time ago not to 
> whistle a unhappy tune, especially when you are driving a long distance.  As 
> I was happily whistling along I became aware... why I didn't become aware of 
> this a half century ago.... that all of my "pitch" changes were being made by 
> moving my tongue around, and not by changing the little aperture between my 
> lips.  Hmmmmmm,  I tried it even more and was becoming more intrigued by how 
> much I could change the pitches by the placement of the tongue in my mouth.  
> I even did some little trills.  "When trilling the tip of my tongue sort of 
> felt like a flicking snakes tongue."  And that "snake tongue flicking" sort 
> of made me think of my X mother-in-law.  "Alright now Milton Behave." 
>   
> So for the next couple of hundred miles or so I kept whistling things with my 
> "whistler"  I compared the formed aperture between my lips when I was buzzing 
> and the aperture when I was whistling.   Wow, there was very very little 
> difference.   The buzz aperture was shaped like the end of a oboe reed and 
> the whistle aperture was a little more round.  I tried long tone whistling, 
> staccato whistling, "long call" whistling, soft, loud fast, slow and ever 
> other whistle I could think of.  I tried stopping the whistle with the 
> tongue, doing staccato with the tongue, and then all of that  with just the 
> breath:  Everything I could think of.  Again why it took me fifty years, who 
> knows.
>   
> What I found with the whistle was that I could never end a note using the 
> tongue without getting a "end of the whistle" nasty sound.  I couldn't 
> whistle stacatto using the tongue.  In fact I couldn't make any kind of nice 
> sound or stop or staccato when I used the tongue to stop the air. 
>   
> Now now yes I know whistling isn't like playing the horn?  Or coarse not?  
> But just out of curiosity, why don't some of you "whistlers" out there give 
> this thing a try and see what you come up with.  I would be curious to find 
> our how your "whistles" work.
>   
> And on yes.  I know we don't use our vocal chords like a singer... not 
> exactly anyway but we do use them.... but I at least... believe we do 
> approach playing the horn more like a singer sings, than does any other 
> instrument.  I was married to a singer and one of the most memorial lessons I 
> ever had was from her voice teacher in New York. ..Winifred Cessel... Sorry 
> about the spelling Winifred..  After that lesson, I will always sure we play 
> the horn very much like a singer sings.
>   
> Sorry to run on guys.  And don't worry I have the fire extinguisher close by. 
>  :)
>
> Milton
>
> Milton Kicklighter
> 4th Horn Buffalo Philharmonic
> Retired
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