You seem to be the only one on the list objecting to anything as far as this thread goes. Your objections have boiled down to nothing but personal insults with nothing to back them up. There have been many things in this list which have been 'off topic' for a short period of time, so why must you only object to this one?
If you can't be civil, don't join in the conversation. -William -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Canarutto <[email protected]> To: The Horn List <[email protected]> Sent: Mon, Jul 11, 2011 6:45 am Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Send in the clones... Please, please, we agreed to drop that. Such issues ought to be discussed seriously, otherwise let's stay horn related. What would you say to somebody wanting to discuss horn technique, but having just a vague idea of what a horn is? And, William, you should think before writing down numbers... this is a perfect example of nonsense: > it would probably be 99.99999% similar, which is almost 100% similar What do you say, do we drop it or not? Daniel On 10Jul 2011, at 22:14 , [email protected] wrote: > > I wasn't taking that into account. Yes, there are problems at the > quantum level, I agree, but I'm not talking about a quantum copy. > I'm talking about a molecular copy. > > Strange things happen on the quantum level, but the probabilities > average out as you gain more and more particles such that the chair > you are sitting in will be solid enough even though one out of every > few trillion 'seatings' you could very well fall through the chair. > My opinion is that if you could make a molecular copy of a Strad > (organic compounds included) it would probably be 99.99999% similar, > which is almost 100% similar - and you probably wouldn't be able to > tell any difference whatsoever. The differences are clearly shown in > Chemistry. Say, for example, one has one atom of Copper, it would be > difficult to know the precise position, location of the particle let > alone sub atomic particles. However, with a few Mols of the stuff, > you really don't have to worry so much about the density changing, > or coefficient of thermal expansion changing, etc. In fact, an > entire modern world has been built with near certitude in mind that > steel will hold when you make a bridge, that > Iron will rust, that densities of materials are pretty much known, > etc. We have yet to record any substantial object teleporting itself > under controlled conditions to another location due to quantum > physics - although it is possible with a very small probability, I > suppose. > > Industry is made on QA of complex machinery and complex materials > such that producing millions of the same object yields pretty good > consistency overall. > > > > > Yes, the quantum world is quite different, but the larger world of > Newtonian physics is sound enough that I am pretty sure I shouldn't > leave my house every morning through my 2nd story window - assuming > I had a 2nd story. A Strad has enough molecules in it that assuming > you could make an exact copy molecule for molecule, you wouldn't be > able to tell the difference. > > I realize this is just a thought experiment as we don't have the > technology to do it - but who knows. one day we might. > > -William _______________________________________________ post: [email protected] unsubscribe or set options at https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/valkhorn%40aol.com _______________________________________________ post: [email protected] unsubscribe or set options at https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
