Sorry Klaus, I cannot access it here from Munich. "This video is not available in your country !".
is the only I get from your & Peters link. ########################################################## Am 14.07.2011 um 18:43 schrieb Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre: > First of all: I am strongly biased against this arrangement, which I find > boring. So I may come out unfair. > > And I am not Norwegian, even if I was in the middle of guiding a talented > young Norwegian tubist friend, who does not fit entirely with the non-musical > elements of a stiff education system. Just had sent the last mail. > > The video appears being by a combination of two ensembles. The Norwegian > radio light orchestra, which has double woodwinds, 4-3-3-1 brasses, and > chamber orchestra strings. And then the salsa band of the arranger. > > To me the said valved trombone look-alike actually is a cimbasso. I cannot > tell the pitch for sure, as I cannot see the amount of tubing in the body. > But from the length of the 1st and 5th loops I would assume it is in F with a > set up very similar to a very common set-up of German style F tubas augmented > with a very useful trigger for the 5th slide. > > The valve loops are distributed very much like with a 5 valve single Bb of > the Sansone type (my own sample is a very well in tune Hoyer engraved B&S to > circumvent a contract about exclusive distribution in Denmark - GDR makers > cheated a lot on their own distributors). The 4 first valves have these > intervals: 1/1 - 1/2 - 3/2 - 5/2. Where the horn stopping valve normally has > a loop equal to about 3/4 step the tuba 5th valve normally has a 5/4 step > loop. Not to be used on its own. The point is that the 4th + 5th loops shall > lover the tuba a perfect fifth. > > As for multi ethnicity: I see a lot of Asians in some American orchestras > also. The few ones I know of here have either been adopted from early > childhood or have married Danes. We have very few musicians directly out of > Africa, but during the Vietnam war a lot of American jazz musicians came > here. Strict drug laws in the US also made some come here. Most were somewhat > older than me and most are dead by now. And now we fight the same wars as the > US and our drug laws have been tightened also. I welcome the latter more than > the former. > > > I just now see Hans’ reply. This video is not illegal by any other standards > than good musical taste. This one even has been uploaded by the arranger. so > i guess copyrights are OK. The link here is slightly shortened down to its > basic form: > > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_sSnLmJN78> > > Klaus > > >> ________________________________ >> From: Peter Hirsch <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 5:42 PM >> Subject: [Hornlist] Something not related to tonguing or scams >> >> OK, it isn't particularly related to horn, but I'll try anything to >> kill off the internecine trivia wars currently going on. >> >> If you are geezer enough, you will instantly flash on Walter Murphy's >> Fifth of Beethoven when you see this. If not, it really doesn't >> matter. What I am particularly curious about, though, is what appears >> to be some sort of vertical bass or contrabass valve trombone (maybe a >> cimbasso - Klaus, what say you?) that is featured several times. >> >> http://youtu.be/3_sSnLmJN78 >> >> It also strikes me as kind of amusing to watch a Norwegian orchestra >> with numerous Asian, Latino and Afro members playing this piece of >> pseudo salsa (and I am not just referring to the extra percussion >> players). I know that we have had many discourses on this list on the >> loss of national sound and style in orchestras nowadays. I think this >> is kind of an illustration that it is beyond discussion at this point. >> >> Enjoy, >> >> Peter Hirsch >> _______________________________________________ >> post: [email protected] >> unsubscribe or set options at >> https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/yorkmasterbbb%40yahoo.com >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > post: [email protected] > unsubscribe or set options at > https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/hpizka%40me.com _______________________________________________ post: [email protected] unsubscribe or set options at https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
