If the horn teaching follows the old days method like e.g. Schantl, it might 
not be enough to arrive at a quality like Thomas Joebstl or Manuel Huber 
(Vienna Phil). Studying the old way is not that fast as modern ways with 
learning the fingerings, but you receive a good feeling about the natural 
pitches whereabouts and for a sound horn tone. It is like learning to read. The 
old method is slower, much slower, but if you master it, and if you are patient 
enough, you will start reading fluently much later but be able to read 
complicate foreign names like "Utztalcoatl" or "Przewalski horse" without 
difficulties. But: the teacher has to insist that things are learned at 100%, 
including ALL signs & respecting them, not just forte & piano. All the accents, 
all the dots, the complete scale of different rhythms, excluding the "off 
regular track rhythms" for the following three or four years. Not looking for 
the high notes until commanding the whole compass from G below low c (= concert 
C) up to written g2 (sitting over top line), no higher by no means, commanding 
also the first scales from 1# to 4#s & 1-flat to four flats. But then higher up 
to written b-flat2 just occasionally & by no means over high c3 or even higher. 
These stratospheric notes are for the real student in the last year before 
graduation if at all. If those last mentioned students forget to practice the 
lower middle & the real low range too, they will produce these severe defects 
which make such books as BE or others in this field seem being necessary. And 
being 100% good brings satisfaction for both parties & the audience. Remember 
regarding programs or pieces: Less is often more, where "less" means "less 
demanding" & "more" means "more quality".

If a solid foundation have been laid, the problems will not occur, except 
through accidents or illness.

The other source for the defects in the embouchure its the ambition, both by 
the teacher & by the student. Why 
starting with Mozarts no.1 concerto, - and study it for weeks & months, because 
not mature enough for it -, as there is a legion of short & not high pieces for 
horn & piano to please the embouchure, the student, the teacher & the audience. 
But what can you do, if teachers have not one cent worth knowledge about this 
literature.

Students study Strauss no.1 forth & forth & forth again for up to more than a 
year & arrive at a school performance frustrated completely, as they hate the 
piece already. But they do not hate the little new pieces.
Well, the new pieces might bring disasters first, if ……  See my comment about 
reading abilities.

If teachers & students (and parents) would observe the rules of real horn 
study, the embouchure would be balanced at all times and confusion would be 
eliminated at first hand. But if the values become inverted, the field for all 
kind of confusing therapies would be prepared.
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