My deepest sympathies are extended to the tender hearted gentlemen --Steve
F., Paul, Mr. Reptile, Hans and Daniel-- who have been brutally forced to
read my abusive posts as I have answered listers' questions regarding the
method I use.  I'll instruct my thugs to temporarily stop the beatings. You
tender fellas may now use your delete buttons... but just this once. ;o)

Steve has asked some legitimate & thoughtful questions and he deserves
answers.

Now to Steve M's questions:

>Q to that A:  I'm sure there is, some other people seemed to not like the
concept of rolling in and out, I was hoping to hear some alternatives.

Popular idea or not, lip rolling is a very effective part of the method.
The beneficial lip shaping skills developed by these techniques are further
enhanced by the incorporation of specific tonguing & breathing techniques to
balance the effects of rolling (and avoid pinching).
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>Q to that A: I asked that because you mentioned using a distorted
embouchure on purpose for the lowest note. My question is, since that
wouldn't be a good way to play that note, why would you Practice it that
way?

Good question.  The BE exercises with the distorted lip positions are used
to train the lips to move, more or less, in the right direction.  These
exercises develop skills & flexibility by extending range of motion,
training the lips to maintain an air seal while freely moving, etc.  They
help the horn player break out of the flat 2 dimensional embouchure box.  BE
students are not directed to use these extreme settings in actual
performance, but they will benefit from the training.  It's like this: a
football player would not execute push-ups and agility drills during a
football game, but the results of the training will help him be more
successful in play.

These exercises are also like three octave scales in the circle of fifths.
You never see this in literature, but they are still very beneficial to
developing musical skills.

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>>Here's a link to a video of a John Graas.? Look at his unusual embouchure.
[John Graas clip.]

>Q to that answer: You can always find exceptions, but I've found over years
of teaching and observing, if it looks really weird, there are usually going
to be some limitations.?

Yes, I know what you mean....like Bruno Schnieder & Dennis Brain.  ;o)

Some people, who are not familiar with the BE method, imagine that BE
transforms the embouchure into something peculiar just because the BE
agility exercise are odd looking.  I haven't seen this happen in the five
years I've taught BE.  I've been practicing BE exercises longer than any
other horn player I know and from all outward appearances, my embouchure
looks much the same as before i started BE -- a 2/3-1/3 set up.  [Milton
actually told me in San Francisco, that my embouchure looks like "classic
Farkas."]

I'll repeat,  There is no such thing as a "correct BE embouchure" because BE
is not an embouchure, but rather a set of developmental exercises to develop
the embouchure, regardless of what it looks like.

But, honestly, the real reason I included this clip is to show that there's
no evidence of "damage" to John Graas's chops from playing with a bunched
chin as Mr. Snake declared there would be.

>>Ok, sorry Valerie, tell me if I'm being too much of a pain.<<

Not a problem,  Steve.  And I believe my torture victims seem to enjoying
the break I've granted them.  Last I checked, they were crunching on Grape
Nuts.

Warm regards, Val
-- 
Valerie Wells
The Balanced Embouchure Method
http://bebabe.wordpress.com/
http://www.beforhorn.blogspot.com/
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