In a message dated 1/18/03 6:59:48 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<<Did Beethoven write something that the horn players in Vienna in the early

1800s play, but a skill has been lost, or have orchestras grown in size such

that a part that at one time could have been handled by one player now

require doubling of parts?

>>

In the latest issue of "International Musician"   Ted Albrecht wrote an 
interesting article entitled 'Beethoven's 1814  "Green Sheet"' which was 
about the musicians who performed on a Feb. 27 1814 concert in Vienna.  This 
was the first performance of his Eight Symphony and also included a 
performace of his Seventh Symphony as well as  the "Wellington's victory" 
piece.
 
Among the players listed on the payroll was hornist Friedrich Hradetsky for 
whom Beethoven wrote many of his famous low horn passages.  The orchestra 
that day was made up of 36 violins; 14 violas; 12 cellos; 7 double basses; 4 
each of the woodwinds and brass plus two contrabassoons; 3 trombones; tympani 
and al least 4 percussionists.  

Beethoven apparently liked huge orchestras when he could get them.   So much 
for the modernist approach of "smaller is better" .

Ted Albrecht is professor of musicology at Kent State University.  When 
I played in a performance of Beethoven's 7th symphony many years ago that Ted 
was conducting  he doubled the horns.   He is a horn friendly conductor.  

Pete Jilka
Kansas City 
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