Kerry:

If others can confirm or correct what follows it would be much appreciated.

It is my understanding from one of his successful students that Mr. Farkas
played on a Geyer and also used an 8D. The horn in his book certainly looks
like a Geyer wrap horn. Mr. Jones played on the silver Kruspe model from
which the 8D was copied. Mr. Chambers played on an 8D.

IMO, your assertion that "maybe the Elkhart 8D's are comparable to the
Holton" is laughable. The marketplace certainly does not agree. Perhaps your
point would have more weight if you can name some of the "world class pro's"
that play on a Holton.

I agree with you completely that personal preference is all that really
matters. Also, a great player can make an inferior instrument sound good.
Hence no player should ever be criticized for their equipment.

Julio de la Rosa

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kerry Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 10:06 AM
Subject: RE: [horn] Conn vs. Holton


> > Hey guys, I have a bit of a problem. . . The orchestra
> > I play in is filled with people using Conn 8d's.  I am
> > actually the only one who doesn't play on one (I've
> > got a Holton 179) and they all give me tons of grief
> > about it!.  The rest of the section seems to feel that
> > 8D's are by far the superior horn.  What do Holtons do
> > better?  Is there any reason one would want to
> > purchace a Holton over a Conn?
>
> Hoo boy, here we go again.
>
> The main difference between Holtons and Conn 8D's are (drum roll):
>
> Personal preference!
>
> They are both fine horns. Well, maybe the Elkhart 8D's are comparable to
> the Holton--it's debatable whether the Abilene or Eastlake 8D's are as
> good. And, I've heard wonderful things about the new Holton Merker
> models.
>
> There's some difference in sound--listen to some recordings of the
> Chicago Symphony under Reiner. That's probably Farkas, playing a Holton.
> Then listen to some recordings of New York under Bernstein, or
> Philadelphia under Ormandy. That's probably James Chambers or Mason
> Jones, playing an 8D.
>
> Bottom line--some very fine players, from amateur to world-class pro,
> play Conn 8D's. Some very fine players, from amateur to world-class pro,
> play Holton.
>
> When I was in college, I let my professor bully me into selling my
> Elkhart 8D and buying a Holton. I'm used to the 8D, so I prefer it, and
> I have regretted ever since my selling the 8D. You quite possibly will
> regret selling the Holton.
>
> Now here's a radical idea. Keep your Holton, and buy an 8D to play with
> the other orchestra. You'll probably blend better. But you probably
> won't play better.
>
> Cordially,
>
> Kerry Thompson
>
>
>
>
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