Every horn is hand made, but using special tools & machinery too. Some parts are produced by specialists in larger series to provide the makers (valve slides, machinery, uni-bal, finger plates, springs, horse shoe, screws, etc.). But these parts are also made by hand, but using special tools & machinery (bending machines, calibration machines).
And dear Daniel, a 10-20 percent dealer profit in Japan ? Have you had any experience regarding Japan ? I doubt that. But I have the experience, travelling to Japan since 1974 every year, often twice or three times, knowing all relevant outlets for horns & other brass. But one has to realize, that customs are different in Japan. The dealer has to pay different & much higher shipping costs than in Europe or inside the USA. The (good from the dealers view) customers also expects a certain "special" discount from the dealer (usually 10 percent), expects also being taken to dinner by the dealer (very expensive in Japanese restaurants - multiply your Florentine dinner expenses by two or three). So all these expenses are included in the final Japanese much higher price. The prices would be again much higher, if the Japanese sales tax would not be 3 percent but 16 or 20 percent as in several European countries (Germany, Austria). Dear friend, please do not exchange arguments in this field with people like me, who are at the real front in this business. Saluti Hans ========================================================= -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of c y Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 1:48 PM To: The Horn List Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Request is 9000 really that much for an instrument with a huge waiting list and the fact that rauch will soon stop taking orders (he may retire)... Dealers in japan sell handmade horns and they mark them up 10-20 percent to make some type of profit... This person sold that horn actually for a loss....I would say any horn with a long waiting list has every reason to be sold at a fair amount above the actual cost... prices change and not waiting 4 years is something worth paying for. this is of course if you are set on having a certain type of horn... Daniel Canarutto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: At 12:00 -0500 2-10-2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >from: (Hans Pizka) > >As far as I remember, this person offered a horn (Rauch) which he bought >>in Japan at Japanese price, asking for a minimum of 9.000.-$ > >$9K! Rauch: rhymes with OUCH! As far as I know, new Rauch horns cost much less than that; but there is a long waiting list. Daniel Canarutto _______________________________________________ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/nafai23%40yahoo.com --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search _______________________________________________ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans.pizka%40t-online.de _______________________________________________ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
