Yes, Cabbage, the use of the fist will bet he "ultima ratio" indeed. 
We have a young fellow in our section (hopefully not for any long more),
who just plays what�s written in his part. No  listening to the singers,
other instruments or to the first horn. So I asked him to reduce his
double forte & adjust to me. He replied, he would just play what�s
written. He eventually asked the guest conductor during the break, if he
could do something, that the other three from the section would play
real forte & fortissimo (it was a performance of the "conversation"
opera Arabella by Strauss, extremely challenging for the horns anyway).
So I got a bit mad. And after the performance I told him two rules:

1. If you don�t hear the principal voice (melody), you are too loud !
2. If you don�t hear the principal player of your section, you are too
loud definitely.

You know what he replied ? "That�s your opinion !" - You know what I
told him then: "Get your ass out of this orchestra & find another job. I
have no use of you !"

Things had escalated & wrongdoings have accumulated over ten months now.
And as I am very patient, special with new members of the section, the
courtain is down, the spectacle is over, and I initiated the process to
remove this guy from our section.

In the music & in many other fields, TEAMWORK is the most required
virtue.

Cheers

Hans

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Graham wondered

How much do you guys use the right hand for intonation?

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A lot, Graham.

What if the player to your right is playing a little 
sharp or flat?  Just open or close your hand a little bit 
inside the bell, and you'll be in tune with them.   And what 
if the player to your right is playing unbelievably out of 
tune?  Just close your hand into a fist, remove it from 
the  bell, and use it to modify the other player's attitude, 
so that they play in tune with you.

Modern horn technique does not require the the right hand 
to be as active as it was in the natural horn era.  Still, 
the sensitive and effect use of the right hand remains 
the hallmark of a truly musical horn player.

Gotta go,
Cabbage
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