Scott, I just do the opposite, using a single high F for those pieces
requiring extremely light tone (Haydn, Bach, Haendel), but with my
regular deep conical small rimmed 5 mms bore mouthpiece, to achieve an
acceptable tone quality (for my ears). When I had not adapted to that 5
mms bore mouthpieces, I used them on the high F exclusively to
compensate the loss of overtones. Try it once & know the difference.

There are pieces requiring high f3 (played), annotated as g3 (four
ledger lines above staff, treble clef, in E-flat) in cadenza, well, then
I used a shallow cuplike wide rimmed mouthpiece, as the pieces were like
trumpeter or clarino pieces with the horn swirling in the stratospheres.
This was for recordings only, 4 very high baroque horn concertos within
one day. The effect of the mps worked, but I had noticed that one cannot
risk a break during the sessions & must trust the sound engineer, as the
lips tend to swell if you stop playing. This comes as one tries to
compensate the loss of overtones by more energy resulting in quite some
more pressure. So it is dangerous for the inexperienced.
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Subject: Re: [Hornlist] high D in Haydn symphony N.99

When playing music like this (high Haydn or Bach) with
a smaller, lighter-sounding orchestra, you should use
a double-descant or high F horn. The double's sound is
too "present." I use a screw-rim mouthpiece, and so I
change the cup to a shallower, smaller-bore size for
lighter, soft, high material. There are those out
there who scream "cheat, cheat" when the descant is
brought up. Don't worry about them - just use the best
tool for the job. You don't see trumpet players
playing the Brandenburg on a Bb trumpet do you? 

Best of luck, Scott

--- Daniel Canarutto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I received the parts for our next program and saw,
> for the first time 
> in my amatorial carreer, a high D (written E, horn
> in Eb) in the 
> menuetto of Haydn Symphony N.99.
> 
> Frankly, I'd prefer not to risk that in a concert. I
> listened to a 
> Concertgebouw recording (Harnoncourt), and I'm sure
> that their 1st 
> horn is not playing that note. How to manage it?
> Since it's an 
> ascending arpeggio Bb-D-F-Bb-D, I plan to play the
> last two notes one 
> octave lower. Suggestions?
> -- 
> Daniel Canarutto
> mathematical physicist & dedicated amateur hornist
> http://www.dma.unifi.it/~canarutto/  (professional
> home page)
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> Corno)
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