Hello to All, I am going to throw my two cents into this discussion. I have several friends that teach middle school, and I have numerous students from the schools that study with me. I think the Holton H179 is a wonderful student horn. I have never had a problem with tuning them, and most of the problems have been in the valve area, and most of those were minor or due to student neglect. I had a student who played the Yamaha 567 for three years, the horn played well, and he had a gorgeous sound on it. The horn was also very sound mechanically. The problem, as I believe Walt pointed out was with the tuning the horn. For that reason alone I hesitate to recommend it. One of the middle school teachers, who is also a hornist is considering replacing all of the school's King horns with the Conn 6D. I have always liked the 6D, and never had any problems with them. I am not sure what the price differencce is between the 9D and the 6D, the 9D may be out of the schools price range, and may not even be on the official school board bid list. (if they have a bid list, I know we do) Yamaha makes a really nice single Bb horn that plays very well, and has proven to be a very reliable instrument, I remember is costing in the $1000.00 range. Very playable by smaller players. I strongly recommend NOT BUYING whatever that thing is that King tries to pass off as a student model horn. I am sure we all know the ones with the plastic arms on the Bb trigger. Happy Thoughts, Chris Bonner
----- Original Message ----- From: "Benno Heinemann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 1:31 PM Subject: [Hornlist] Re: Horns for Middle School > > The time has come, I believe, when we can't just say don't buy a > chinese Horn. > The chinese are starting to build some really quite decent Instruments > now, but you wouldn't want to buy one without tried it, since there are > still a lot of them that are junk. ( I tried one, it was in F minor!) > The price of some of these Horns are unbelievable. Less than you would > pay for Raw Material in this country. Soon I beleive this will > constitute a threat to many established manufacturers of Student and > Band Instruments. > > Incidentally, imagine, there is a fellow here in Germany selling > chinese Double Horns on Ebay with his own Name on them, saying he built > them himself! > > with good Wishes, > > Benno Heinemann > > > Hamburg, Germany > > _______________________________________________ > post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/cbonner%40swfla.rr.com > _______________________________________________ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org