Alan,
   I don't think ebay can get upset as long as the warnings are made in
general.  "Buy a quality used horn instead of the poor quality ultracheap
import."  "Check with YOUR band director about the quality of these horns
vs. the ultracheap imports."  etc.

But you know, I sometimes look at the ebay horns that are about to sell and
most people are bidding on good horns... a lot of the bad imports are not
getting bids at all, even at the low, low price.

LB


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alan Cole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Leonard & Peggy Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "The Horn List"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 9:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Hornlist] worse and worse ebay ads


> Say I put some decent, playable used student-grade horns up for sale on
> eBay (e.g., Holton, Conn 6D, Amati Kraslice, etc.).  What are the ethics
of
> including in the eBay item descriptions a warning about the unsatisfactory
> quality of some of the competing eBay no-name el-cheapo horns, along the
> lines of warnings some of the school band folks hand out to parents as
> described recently here on the horn list?
>
> -- Alan Cole, rank amateur
>     McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA.
>       ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> At 09:43 PM 8/23/2004, you wrote:
>
> >Just looking at the ads
> >
> >84% off  Germany 2005
> >  (translation: Made in China by "German Engineering")
> >
> >"over 50,00 happy ebay customers"
> >    (then why is their feedback 20906?)
> >(given 50ooo sales and 99% satisfaction means that 500 people weren't
happy?
> >I wonder if they counted them?)
> >
> >Suggested retail 1195, buy it now for $125.00.  (in most cases a 1195
retail
> >would mean that each horn is costing them over $500.00... so I guess they
> >love selling them at 125 and losing 375 on each sale... if you believe
the
> >suggest retail)
> >
> >Teacher or School approved
> >(sorry we don't have permission to tell you which school or which
teacher)
> >( How many school's want the kids to start on single Bbs anyway?)
> >
> >At least the crooks who were listing single Bbs as doubles are no longer
on
> >ebay for the most part.
> >
> >I bought a horn from China BEFORE they hit ebay to try out.  It looked
fine,
> >it was well put together, the parts didn't fall off or anything BUT it
> >played horrid.  It was like they had made the bell out of leather, the
sound
> >went about 2 feet out of the horn and just died.  I think the problem was
> >the whole horn was way too heavy and the metal too thick.
> >
> >Sorry for the rant
> >Leonard
>
>

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