"Mit aufgehobenem Schalltrichter" translates into "with lifted up bell" & explains as: lift the bell a bit sidewards & keep the hand a bit more open than usual so to create a somewhat "hollow" broad sound, like playing in a long marble plated gallery or in the deep forrest.
"mit aufwärts gerichtetem Schalltrichter" translates "with the bell pointed upwards" & explains as: bell up. Mahler exaggerated his playing instructions very often. Even "bell up" is a visual point, it is not necessary nor is it wise (regarding intonation) to follow this instructions point by point. We have different means to create the same acoustical effect. Our horns produce a more powerful sound as the single horns of his time. Even Vienna Phil horns started developing the very strong sound during the 1875-1910 period. We can lift the horn a bit side wards (not into your neighbours face , ear or body) between the several players, open the bell hand more or in the 2nd way dramatically more than usual, change the air support to use more air as usual, and we get the same effect WITHOUT the defect of bad intonation, as the right hand is still there to correct. Be naive, ask your conductor how he would translate it. Mostly, he cannot explain it right. Show him the difference between the "word-by-word" interpretation and the way I recommend & ask him about his preference of the offered results (sound & intonation), "babblig something about insecurity, danger of cracking a note or two, thus destroying the beauty of the work, danger for the health of the neighbour player if the left ear would be exposed to this extreme sound ....". See for more Mahler terms on my home page www.pizka.de/GMahler2.htm Using the terms, you can screw the conductor. ============================================================ ==================================================== -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Henry Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2005 8:20 PM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: [Hornlist] Mahler 2nd -- A Question Greetings -- I wonder if someone could perhaps enlighten me regarding the bells up indications found in Mahlers 2nd. Throughout the 2nd, Mahler indicates bells up as "mit aufgehobenem Schalltrichter" However in the final movement after rehearsal number 49, the big horn entrance marked FFF, Mahler specifies "mit aufwarts gerichteten Schalltrichter." Can someone (Hans?) tell me what the difference (if any) between the two bells up indications might be? Did Mahler intend something different than the normal bells up after rehearsal number 49? Regards, Michael Henry _______________________________________________ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans%40pizka.d e _______________________________________________ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org