Hi, me again, I don't usually do this on public forums, but I just wanted to thank Professor Pizka for his in-depth answer. I'm aware that a player of his caliber probably doesn't have a lot of time to deal with the trivial questions of students who pay him no money and live on another continent. I know that I for one revere him as the sort of "Horn Buddah", who will always have a correct answer to what ever horn-related question I ask him, and I personally feel that deserves some appreciation. Thank you, Nick
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nick, you got the news quite late indeed, as even Dennis Brain started the "natural horn rebirth" in the very early 1950ies, more than 50 years ago. And he got a large number of "followers", who adopted the natural horn ads their "second leg" for special concerts since. Nick, have you ever heard of concerts with period instruments ? It seems, you belong to the vast number of young players living on a far away planet without registering what´s around them. That does not only happen on your continent, it is a world wide epidemic not only restricted to music. Achieving a technical mastery of the instrument, which players of my generation could not even imagine, but completely outside the context of music, without phantasy, without feeling, without everything essential for the art of music. So far, the situation. Yes, this changed world - not to blame you, Nick, and your commilitones - , this world with ist acoustical environment pollution has reduced our sensitivity to near zero level, so most of us need a sample for everything (e.g. recording), as we cannot imagine how a piece would sound, by mere reading the written or printed music. We have reduced ourselves to poor imitators more or less. But few exception remaining phantasyful & creative. Those climb up the ladder of success. Those get the best jobs in the orchestra. The rarity of these talents is the reason, why more & more good orchestra vacancies cannot be filled with appropriate young musicians. Before we hire a only-technician-musician, we leave a top position vacant for years. Back to your question: You seem to mix up the facts. Conch shell & ox horn were signal instruments, nothing else. Olifants (= the horns made of elephant tuscs) were extremely precious, were used as ceremonial & signal instruments as were the antic lures. This was different from what we think of music in the classical way. It was not music "per se". Hunting horns can play together in one tonality only, except we use the imperfect system of modulating single pitches by the use of the right hand in the bell (quite complicate regarding the dimensions of these horns). If the group is large enough & includes horns of different pitch, the group can play modestly altered tonalities in the performances. But this is again a deviation from the pure path of hunting horn playing. So hunting horn playing remains restricted, even received enthusiastic by the audiences because of the special sound & the optical sensation, restricted due to the compository limitations. And it cannot be named a musical instrument in our modern sense therefore. The hand horn or natural horn is different, as a real natural horn virtuoso (Halstead, Bonet, Greer, Garcin-Marrou, etc.) can play nearly every kind of music from early baroque period until late romantic on this kind of horn, and in a way, most technical advanced (valve horn) players cannot dare to dream of. Why these rebirth ? (during my study, there was no rebirth of the natural horn necessary, as it was part of our study, but at the beginning, the very beginning. It was the beginning !) Yes, this rebirth brings back the basic technique of horn playing, the better feeling for tone colours, the better lip control (bending, sharpening, lowering, lip trills, stopping, hand muting) with all the benefits for the modern double horn. Forgot the mute ? No problem. Do it by hand. Forgot stopping mute ? No problem, go to hand-stopping. Etc.etc. And, playing period music with period instruments creates a better understanding for blending with other instruments (horn = tin viola !), gives better understanding about possible tempi, dynamics etc. And more, more, more ..... The driving point for a rebirth of a somewhat antiquated instrument is not the number of existing concert pieces. This view would be much too narrow. But believe me: learning this old techniques will help you to make you a better "modern" horn player & musician. ============================================================ ============================================= -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nicholas Hartman Hartman Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 3:09 AM To: horn list Subject: [Hornlist] the natural horn Dear List, I've heard that recently, the natural horn has been making a comeback. My question is, why the natural horn? Why not the hunting horn, alp horn, or even the conch shell? it seem like an oddly specific instrument to make a comeback. There are dozens of horns that have had an impact on the development of the modern horn, yet no one would put the words "Seraphinoff" and "Conch Shell" in the same sentence (except for just then). Thanks, Nick --------------------------------- Discover Yahoo! Find restaurants, movies, travel & more fun for the weekend. Check it out! _______________________________________________ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans%40pizka.d e _______________________________________________ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/frenchorngeek%40yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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