Ellen Manthe states, "I am not putting one system above the other, but just
making the comment to a lister that very fewuniversity professors - probably
none - get their positions just because of the degree alone."

   The dynamic Nancy Joy is a fine example of someone who earned her
teaching position on ability as she does not have a doctorate. She maintains
a very fine horn studio at New Mexico State University--Las Cruces. Many of
us have heard her students perform at various IHS Symposiums and regional
workshops.

Loren
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