Allow me to put my amateurish two cents in. I too learned transposition from Kopprasch 1 back in the late 60's. I started playing again after not having played from about 1983 to 2003. Nothing organized, just at home or occasionally with a friend and some of his students. When asked how does one transpose B (thinking about Brahms' 2nd, I often hear "just memorize it". Well recently I sat down and started to play Brahms' 2nd and when I got to the second movement I thought to myself, Bb and C are very common keys for Horn. When playing a Bb part and seeing a D one should "see" a G. (In C one should "See" an A) So I though I would just "transpose" a half step up. Look "D" - See "G" and play G#. Its easier than it sounds.
Looks like the Video game age has even affected some of our young musicians. By the way, I took your advice at the end of the last movement. It is much easier on F Horn that it is trying to coordinate between 1-2 and 2-3 on Bb Horn. My fingers are less confused on F Horn. But having also relied too much on Bb Horn, I need a lot of work on my tonality. Regards, Joe -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hans Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 1:43 PM To: 'The Horn List' Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Re: tone quality of E horn But for many people, it remains a big problem. If one has learned transposition beginning with Kopprasch no.1, transposition is an automatic thing. But if people are not exposed to transposition, they will forget it or at least some of them. It should never be a problem for the professional. But still, transposing an E-horn part while playing the Bb-side, remains a nightmare for the majority. They deserve it because their unbelievable stubborn hanging on the Bb-side only. ============================================================ ================================================ -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 12:48 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Re: tone quality of E horn Wait a sec... why should transposition be a problem? -William In a message dated 9/6/2005 1:52:52 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: William, what all the talk about alternate fingerings when people have enough problems (usually) to think the transposition ??? Isn´t it much better, to avoid any confusion to be able to concentrate oneself to the musical flow ? If I think about pieces in E, real solo pieces, Weber´s concertino comes to mind, where even first valve (on the F-horn) is rarely used. Just valve 2 is busy all the time. But the topic was: how the sound (timbre) changes when using the F- or E-crook. This applies to the hand horn only. There is a very light shift only. If compared with the valve horn, there is quite no shift in timbre as one is using the E-horn mostly anyway, when playing the E part on the F-side (2nd valve is E-horn). _______________________________________________ post: [email protected] unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans%40pizka. de _______________________________________________ post: [email protected] unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/joescarpelli%40earthlink.net _______________________________________________ post: [email protected] unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
