I had the oppurtunity to see the VPO play Dvorak 9 and a Schubert symphony in Severance Hall in Cleveland a few years ago.
There were a couple instances where the first, and the third if I recall correctly, switched to an F-alto single. If I am not mistaken it was the solo/duet at the end, and also the third horn lick in the Scherzo that also goes up to a high B. There were actually a few clams in the concert, but nothing too terrible. Chris --- "Prof.Hans Pizka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Surely, you cannot imagine that, as you are not familiar > with the F-horn playing technique of the Viennese school. > At first, what is so important with that Shostakovich no.5 ? > It is just a wave, a fashion not more & will fade. And if > they play, they can use a different crook for this passage > or ask the trombone players to sneek in for the one note. > Why so "over ambitious" ? > At second: high e3 on the F-horn is by far easier to get > than on the Bb-horn, - preconditioned one has the right > embouchgure to play first horn with the Vienna Philharmonic. > Have you heard Thomas Joebst playing concertstueck on the > new CD ? Have you ever heard what kind of programs the VP > dids on their 1st & 2nd Southamerican Tour 1922 & 1923 ? > Under Weingartner & Richard Strauss the first tour & under > R.Strauss all on the 2nd tour: all Tone Poems by Strauss > within 4 concerts in Montevideo on four consecutive days. > Just one example. And the tour had 42 concerts. And no > double horn with them then. > At third: They use double horns & descant horns for special > tasks as all do, but the single F-Horn is their main > instrument, so says their contract. > At fourth: Other Viennese orchestras (4 or 5) use double > horns as well, but dont have the Single F Pumpenhorn written > in their contracts. > > I can speak about that, as I have done all these things on > my single F Horn also. We say "Wer kann, der kann !!" > ============================================================ > ================================================= > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Marc Gelfo > Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 7:05 PM > To: horn@music.memphis.edu > Subject: [Hornlist] Re: French Nationalistic Sound > > > In reality though, the Vienna Philharmonic is an > "original > > instruments group" in the truest sense. > > I've heard a lot of players in Vienna are using doubles and > triples for security in the high register, but cannot > substantiate this claim since I don't remember from whom I > heard it or any particular names of players in Vienna. > > Also, I'm curious how they pull of things like the low E in > the 4th mvt of Shostakovich 5, which cannot be played on F > horn (I guess maybe sort of you could bend down pedal F# > with F123, but that would be treacherous to attack an > out-of-the-blue piano low E with that > fingering) > > Anybody know more about this? > > I can't imagine playing, e.g., the Strauss domestic symphony > 1st horn part on a single F horn. > > Marc Gelfo > > _______________________________________________ > post: horn@music.memphis.edu > unsubscribe or set options at > http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans%40pizka. > de > > _______________________________________________ > post: horn@music.memphis.edu > unsubscribe or set options at > http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/tedesccj%40yahoo.com > __________________________________ Yahoo! for Good - Make a difference this year. http://brand.yahoo.com/cybergivingweek2005/ _______________________________________________ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
