My understanding is that relative pitch has many levels.  With regard to the 
list member who referred to "Modus Novus", I too have found many who had 
difficulty with the non-diatonic and confusing enharmonic spellings that appear 
in this very fine sight-singing exercise book.  Some people have very good 
diatonic relative pitch, but many do not extend their experience into the 
chromatic and atonal.

There are many students (and I discovered this in my two years as a teaching 
fellow in the ear-training dept. at Juilliard) who have perfect pitch in 
relationship to their instrument.  There was one fellow who could accurately 
write every dictation as long as he was writing F horn pitch.  He could not 
make the transposition immediately, but naturally could re-write the 
transcription.  All he needed to do was master the mezzo-soprano clef!  Another 
student could not take dictation unless he pretended to play his flute.  
Somehow the physical crutch enabled him to hear pitch perfectly.  

One time, I received a call from Lowell Greer to play second horn in an 
orchestra which was accompanying him on a Mozart Concerto using period 
instruments.  There were other pieces on the program.  I am not a natural horn 
player by any means, but he provided the instrument and the mouthpiece, and I 
(hopefully) did not embarrass myself.  I did find myself pretending to depress 
valves as I played different notes in different keys.  I was quite surprised at 
how much that small crutch improved my accuracy. It was also helpful to have 
R.J. Kelly sitting to my left and being the terrific colleague he always is.

O. 

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Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 11:24 AM
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Subject: RE: [Hornlist] pitch

There is also the "acquired perfect pitch", means the "a" is
fix stored in the memory. There is a lot of education
involved. 

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Behalf Of James Wester
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:24 PM
To: horn@music.memphis.edu
Subject: Re: [Hornlist] pitch

I've always heard the term "relative pitch" used for those
having quite good ears, but not quite perfect pitch.  I put
myself in that catagory.  Some who can sing a pitch cold
most of the time, knows proper intervals, plays in tune, yet
probably coudln't tell you if a solitary note was sharp or
flat or in tune with any regularity.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What kind of pitch do you have if
you can cold sing a middle c 75% of the time?
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