I could see how it could work with only two valves of a modern horn, e.g., I find I can make (as can anyone else) a pretty passable second space A on an open F horn, so the G# that's normally 2-3 could be the same with just the second valve held down. "Fully" chromatic is in the eye of the beholder, I guess. :)
-S- > -----Original Message----- > From: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > du] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 11:43 AM > To: horn@music.memphis.edu > Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Haydn Symphony No. 46 > > I'd have to search for the site again, but they didn't give a > lot of detail. My guess would be that the loose definition of > 'chromatic' > would entail playing all the written notes in a given piece. > Being able to tune a half step would allow two valves to do > this. The horn was designed with one thing in mind, but > players quickly learned how to use it beyond the designers > expectations. A major development would have been the > fabrication of tight valves that could be changed quickly and > reliably. I own an E.G. Wright contrabass Saxhorn from the > 1850s with three standard rotary valves as well as on > original 4th valve to switch the horn to BBb. This is the > earliest 'fully chromatic' brass I've come across. A three > valve instrument isn't really much more 'fully chromatic' > than a two valve, except y son routinely plays an Eb tuba > down to the pedals using non existent harmonics. He contends > that valves to play in that range are so notoriously out of > tune, not having them allows for perfect intonation. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Freides <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: 'The Horn List' <horn@music.memphis.edu> > Sent: Sun, 9 Jul 2006 13:55:56 -0400 > Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Haydn Symphony No. 46 > > Bill Bamberg wrote: > > > With very little search, I found historic accounts of > fully > chromatic brass, possibly only using two valves, in > the > 1810s. Hans' date of the early 1850s probably > represents when > acceptance was universal, and the purpose > for valves was was > to make the instrument chromatic. > > -snip- > > How would this be possible with only two valves? > > -S- _______________________________________________ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org