Our resident cabbagatologist as usually is very smart. He even gets his spelling almost right!
We shall not discuss neither religion. nor politics, especially in these troublesome days. Yet I may briefly tell of my own standing. I am brought up in a very liberal Protestant family environment, but the local church environment was so conservative, that I left the Church of Denmark at age 20. Since then I was very well educated as a teacher in religion, even if my focal points were music and literature. I have done innumerable church concerts as a player or as a conductor. Today I am the conservative, as I am very close to the Old Testament style Jews. I recently discussed this with the priest/pastor who baptized my youngest daughter. I told, that I was not ashamed of being a Jew, as Jesus was one himself. He never ever read any part of the New Testament. The theologist bought my arguments, as he said, that Jesus could not be understood as anything but a Jew. Even my very old father, formerly the chairman of his local church, accepts my standing. I have gotten very high marks for my religion teaching by a government inspector, even if the headmaster had told him about my positions. I actually happen to have a point with this posting: Even if one can read the original texts in Hebrew or Greek, none of the original terms can be translated precisely to either of the three languages into which I have read the bible: Danish, German, and English (the King James version). A funny sample may be found in a very musical context from Händels Der Messias/The Messiah. There is this famous trumpet/vocal-bass duel/duet. In English the opening line is: The trumpet shall sound. The German text says: Sie schallt, die Posaune (She sounds, the trombone). When Mozart re-instrumentated The Messiah for his available Austrian musicians, there was no trumpet player, who could do the then obsolete baroque style clarino part. So WAM took the brass part down an octave and gave it to a horn in D. The Shofar was a trumpet made out of a rams horn, so both terms of trumpet and horn will go without being a lie. I seem to remember something about the Jerusalem temple having silver trumpets, but I cannot find the quotation. With all respect to the old Jews: they did not have slide trombones. These are a medieval European invention, so Luther is wrong in his translation at this point (my guess is that Händel used a German protestant bible, and they all are based on Luthers work). The main 3 bible versions I know about (plus some old and some modern Danish versions) do not concur in every detail, even if they agree on the main message, which I do dare to boil down to 2 or 3 words depending on the language (the last sample is Danish): Praise the Lord! Lobet den Herrn! Exultate Deo! Tiljubler Herren! This is a very personal demonstration of my biases. Dont let them be object of discussions. But then I had to tell them to get my horn related message through. And if we shall have some final considerations: Mahler has some very remarkable horn calls, which Leonard Bernstein considered being a reference to the Shofar playing of the Jewish priests. He also has some remarkable trumpet signals with references to his surrounding very militarily based Austrian-Hungarian double monarchy. I have around 65 brasses, 10 of them horns, and I have considered buying a Shofar. But I am extremely allergic, so I do not dare to buy even one of the sanitized ones available from Israel. And I wont go with one of the plastic samples also available on the market. You know me as an old man ranting, but then you could have deleted this posting by the notion of my name. Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Rachel wrote > > Mahler 2 comes to mind in the following verses from Revelations: > > ..my apologies for not mentioning HORN in this one.. > > REV 8:2,6 > > 2: And I saw seven angels which stood before GOD; and to them were given > seven TRUMPETS > 6: And the seven angels which had the seven TRUMPETS prepared themselves to > sound... > > However-if one were to read the entire scripture from Rev: 8:2- until Rev: > 10:7, > one shall see that only six angels play the trumpet and the seventh is > waiting offstage for the big 4-angel soli. Three are late for the concert. > > ************ > Trumpet players are really careless that way. According to > Corinthians, the big solo on the day of judgement had to > be played by the last trumpet, since none of the others > showed up. > > Gotta dammerung, > Cabbage __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
