So, that´s your goal - ruining the publishers, who keep
prices stabil for many years (in my case, I kept prices for
20 years the same). What is a downloaded copy worth compared
with a real printed & bound publication which will last for
your life ???? If one like to go into this trade one must
invest something, or not ?????

And the ur-ur-urfassung ??? What do you expect ? The text of
this sonata is the same in all publications from the first
edition to the newest. Differences (editions) are only
regarding some dots & some slurs. That´s all. And these
small things depend on the particular taste of a region or a
particular fine player. 

How should an ur-ur-text help, if the young players are not
capable following the text perfectly ? I taught so many
masterclasses and too many students were not able, to
remember a special most helpful advice until the next
phrase. I let them play the whole phrase again & again, but
they made the same mistake over & over. These ur-ur-text do
not help by no way.

BTW, the urtext is up on my site anyway since long, but you
have to be most patient while waiting the loading process. 

Preparing unpublished rare things for free download is one
thing, but making things available for free, things which
every horn player should own, that is another thing. 

The next step would be asking for free lessons & next asking
the makers for free rent of their instruments .....
If those would reduce unnecessary spending (magazines,
movie, parties, fun dress etc.) they would be able to spend
that few bucks for the standard library: Mozart 1 - 4,
Rondo, Strauss 1, Beethoven Sonata, Hindemith Sonata, Brahms
Trio, excerpt books ....  

We, the elder generation, the generation just before
retirement, we had to work to get the money for our private
music library. And we worked hard ....

Many of you younger fellows, female & male, you have the
wrong concept of life & of the profession including the
study.
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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Jay Anderson
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 3:48 PM
To: The Horn List
Subject: Re: [Hornlist] public domain editions

No, I'm not looking for free copies. I already own a copy of
the Beethoven. The problem is the edition was created after
1923 (an important year in US copyright law). I can't be
sure what was from the original or what was from the editor.
Therefore I need a much older edition to use as the source.

My goal however is to make a free edition in which users can
download, print, and modify if they so choose. Mutopia
already has a few horn pieces
(http://mutopiaproject.org/cgibin/make-table.cgi?Instrument=
Horn).

I don't really mind the effort it'll take to find this score
and copy it. I'll be worth it to study an edition from back
then.

Ok, so how would one go about getting a copy of these
editions? I envy you Europeans that are closer to such old
art and music. Thanks for the help. I'll be able to search
for these editions later today (after work).

-----Horndude77

On 8/31/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> The old Viennese publications during Beethovens life time
!! But they are not useable today. And a Schlesinger
publication in the 19th century.
> Question: are you just looking for FREE copies ???? The
available publications do not cost much, just a few $$. SAo,
is it worth to go through all libraries, finding an old
publication to get it copied. Isn´t the effort too much in
relation to the money ? It would cost you more anyway.
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