Jonathan, in all honour, who of the younger players is using hand stopping ? If I look around, all use the stopping mute & thus the trouble & complications. They never think about the right use of the right hand. They learned it that way. Why ? Because they play everything except low g on the Bb-side, - at least here in Europe.
Those who adopted the handhorn as a fun tool or a welcome tool to make some extra money, they have no problems, neither playing on the F-side nor with hand stopping. And they know that hand stopping works well on the F-side only, just with a very few notes on the Bb horn (if they master the intonation problems then) & never on the high F-side, if using a triple or Bb-high F. Who is to be blamed ? The inadequate teachers, teachers with inefficient experience in the professional orchestra - and such teachers are abundant. ============================================================ =============================================== -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan West Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 11:24 AM To: The Horn List Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Bartok question As Steven said, I'm sure Bartok's intention was that you hand stop alternate bars. Bartok I'm sure knew enough about the horn to know about hand stopping and the effect that can be achieved with rapid changed between stopped and open notes. I'm not familiar with the piece, but can you describe exactly how those bars are notated? Do they say "con sord" and "senza sord" or are the notes on alternate bars marked with a + sign? I rather suspect the latter, in which case Bartok's intention is perfectly clear - he intended the notes to be hand stopped. Regards Jonathan West _______________________________________________ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans%40pizka. de _______________________________________________ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org