Lighter resonance body (less material), shorter tube. If you use the same bell for completely different horns, it would end up in a more uniform sound & missing the distinct light sound. For some producers, it is a more practical (economic) issue than an artistic, but much depending on the artistic advisor to the company. If one has no special "tone taste", any advice must fail & result in a "gulyas"-like tone.
============================================================ ===================== -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robson Adabo de Mello Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 4:32 PM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] RE: Is it necessary a descant when you have a triple? Thank you guys for the answers. The descant has a lighter sound that is more appropriated for the baroque era. Now I have another question. Why does it happen? Is the reason the smaller bore size? Is the reason the smaller bell? Is the reason the lighter weight (because it doesn't have the low F side)? I'm asking becouse some brands like Yamaha produce al the models, including the descant, with the same bore. Some other like Engelbert offer many bell sizes, but they are interchangeable, for instance you can use a descant and a double or triple with the same bell. Sorry for too many technical questions, but I'm engineer Once again thank you very much 2007/5/26, hans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Richard, you missed the question and my answer probably. > Playing high on a single Bb or on a double is not THAT problem for a > very good first horn, but getting the right tone quality for baroque > music is the other thing. The descant is just for that & not to be > used for things like the Schumann or Sinfonia domestica. The descant > is used for sound reason. Well, there are some extremely high > concertos from PRE-Classic or late Baroque, which require the descant > for sound reason & for the extremely high tessitura, not for single > high notes. > > ============================================================ > =============================================== > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Richard > Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 12:45 AM > To: horn@music.memphis.edu > Subject: [Hornlist] RE: Is it necessary a descant when you have a > triple? > > Robson Adabo de Mello wrote: > Hello Guy > > Like I said before I'm not a horn play, I'm a trumpet player, but I'm > asking this question to my father-in-law. > > He has a double King horn (I don't know the model), and now he's > trying to play some baroque pieces that are extremely high. In his > opinion his sound is too heavy with his regular double. > > He's thinking about getting a new horn and now he has a doubt. When > you have a triple is it necessary a descant? For a person that has a > double, is it better get a triple or a descant? > > ************************ > > One could hardly answer your question more eloquently than Prof. > Pizka's musical example. The suggestion to pull all the F slides isn't > all that practical, because, while it lightens the sound, it also > allows more leakage, so if the horn is worn at all, it will tend to > un-center it. > > More to the point, a descant horn is all very well, but I have heard > some extraordinary high playing on single Bb horns. Gail Williams did > the 1st part on the Schumann Konzertstück on single Bb with our > orchestra many years ago, and it was spectacular. If your father plays > a King other than the Eroica, a King model 1158 4 valve single Bb > would match the feel well with a lighter sound and very easy response. > There are a lot of them floating around - a very nice one sold on eBay > recently for less than $200. And of course there are many other good > single Bb horns around. The Yamaha YHR-321 and -322 are very good and > readily available used for not too much money. > > Richard Hirsh, Chicago > > _______________________________________________ > post: horn@music.memphis.edu > unsubscribe or set options at > http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans%40pizka. > de > > _______________________________________________ > post: horn@music.memphis.edu > unsubscribe or set options at > http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/robson.adabo% 40gmail.co > m > _______________________________________________ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans%40pizka. de _______________________________________________ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
