On Aug 28, 2007, at 10:00 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 09:31:45 +0200
from: "hans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
subject: RE: [Hornlist] Re:  Mozart Sym. 29 in A

Hello Bill, all said perfectly, but .....

Concert c# on 2nd valve Bb-horn will be flat definitely if
the 2nd slide is at the right position for the concert E
(top), means if the A-horn is tuned perfectly. So why not
leaving the 3rd Bb-slide on ist place & use it together with
2nd for the concert C# ?

When I was a very young player, I did this symphony
severaltmes on the single F Viennese perfectly. Admitted, my
old Viennese Horn was wonderful. And the sound could be very
light or striking heroic, depending on me. But after years,
I preferred to do it on the single F-descant - and when we
used that kind of horns, we received an extra cheque  ....
Descant horn not part of our contract - we just had to
persuade the conductors (easy) to insist on descant horn
use.

Kindest greetings

Hans

Hi everybody,
I think on most horns you can learn to play the C# & D concert notes in tune- especially the Geyer wrap horns and Bb horns. Personally, I prefer the high ones that way because they are stronger notes and on a harmonic two lower than the High F concert harmonic (where the T12 and T23 notes are). Your milage may vary, but most people find these notes to be so flat because they are used to playing the high G# and A (horn pitch) on sharp fingerings of 23 and 12. Not to say that they aren't flat harmonics because they are. Just not as flat on many horns as you might think. For those of you out there who have never tried using 2nd and open for these notes, you might want to put some time into it anyway, just as part of learning your horn. You may find that they center better and are easier to hit. Also, by just using 2nd valve on Bb horn for everything, you will gain the advantage that all natural horn players have of not having to worry about fingerings so you can concentrate on the notes. This is more of an advantage than you might think. In general, the more you know the harmonic series on your horn, the better off you will be. And the more you learn about hand position the better, too.

Finally, I can say it! All the DVD orders are in the mail! Over 100 of them- 20 odd international ones- well, I'm counting Canada, since i am half Canadian. : ) Thanks to all of you for making this possible. The next thing I am going to do is put up a FAQ page for questions about the DVDs on my web site. I am also going to make video clip answers to the questions, if i feel that will be best. There will also be a resource page for things mentioned on the DVDs in case you didn't get the one that is supposed to come with the DVDs. (That would be my students' fault, by the way, they packed them.) : ) In the future the web page is going to be the official repository of this info anyway.
Sincerely,
Wendell Rider
For information about my book, "Real World Horn Playing", the DVD and Regular and Internet Horn Lessons go to my website: http:// www.wendellworld.com


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