Jonathan. Not just for "for purposes of improved tuning or special effects", but to correct intonation (in case you play together with Bb-instruments for certain chords, you must stay on the Bb-side), to ease fingerings, to get an easier forte attack in the low (using Bb-fingerings), to smooth a legato by lip slurs (staying on the F-side).
Steve, it is not too much for sixth-graders to cover both fingering charts, Bb & F, but there are no different finger charts, just shifted fingering charts for a fourth. It is not too much, to ask the children remembering the finger charts, as they do remember millions of games, channels, writing short cuts, etc. .... We just think about them in a most antiquated way and children remember things much easier than we do with our aged brain. But we teach them in a wrong way just fingerings instead make them able to understand the harmonic series & the relations of the tones each other. We use the wrong methods as they are SOOOOOOO EASY, instead of using the sound mix between playing & theory progress. We want them to "ENJOY" playing as quickly as possible. We want to hear them playing TUNES. That is wrong. We have to teach them the ABSTRACTS first (takes six months) & wait a bit to hear real results besides simple chords & scales & long notes. So both sides have to be patient. But after a certain period of time, the children will be able to play on both sides of the double horn equally. It takes two or three years first. Or are we in the fun society only, where everything is fun ? Life is not just fun. Life is a lot of work. And work & ist result gives fun. ============================================================ ========================================================= -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan West Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 9:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] B-flat or F fingerings in the low register << When I was in college and studying with Nolan Miller of the Philadelphia orchestra, I would sometimes stumble when playing because, knowing and using all the available fingerings, I would freeze trying to pick the right one, even after practicing a piece numerous times. His recommendation was to lock into a standard fingering pattern and to only deviate from it for purposes of improved tuning or special effects.>> Most people end up being predominantly Bb-side players, or predominantly F-side players, or fairly commonly mainly Bb side in the upper register and mainly F side in the lower register. There is nothing wrong with this. All those options are perfectly tenable. I happen to be a predominantly Bb-sided player myself, with just a few notes that are usually played on the F side. My point is that you have to know both sides thoroughly so that you are able to switch "for purposes of improved tuning or special effects", know when it is appropriate to do so, and be able to do it without stumbling. Regards Jonathan West _______________________________________________ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans%40pizka. de _______________________________________________ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
