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Trumpet Herald Forum - http://www.trumpetherald.com/forum/ (this is a bulletin board and not a mail list) C trumpet - You will find many philosophies on this subject. I think most will play C trumpet at some point, but it is not a given. Some play C trumpet exclusively while others only play C trumpet for parts specifically written for it. For example, in early music different pitched trumpets were used based on the pitch of the music due to no valves creating a non-chromatic instrument much like the horn but with the added liability of not being able to change the pitch based on hand position. For those pieces it is often up to the discretion of the player as to which instrument sounds best for the ensemble they are playing in. For more modern works, composers often wrote for a specific sound. The C trumpet generally was a more brilliant and more compact sounding trumpet, and so for those works, the choice of a C trumpet is important. There is a lot of French literature out there where I feel C trumpet is must. This is very different from horn as horn in one key tends to maintain the same basic sound as horn in a different key (barring missed notes, of course). Of course, it is also important to note that many modern (last 10 - 20 years) makers boast a C trumpet that sounds and feels just like a Bb trumpet. Of course, that sort of defeats moving to a C trumpet, since we've lost the concept of a different sound in those cases. In my case, I have four C trumpets. Each has a different sound and each serves a different purpose--yes, one of them sounds and plays just like a Bb. I use that when the music is more complex than a care to transpose quickly and I need to nail something on the first take. Much of when to use a C is based on what style the music is in, what keyed trumpet it is written for, what type of ensemble it is with, what era the music was written, and finally, the skill and ability of the player. Eb trumpet - I assume you mean the Michael Hayden? The Joseph Hayden lays easily on Bb, although maybe a bit easier on Eb. If you are talking about the Michael Hayden, I really can't help you with that as I've only listened to it. I determined a long time ago that no matter what instrument I was holding, it was not a piece in my comfort zone. As far as playing Eb on Baroque music, I tend to as most Ebs (or Ds as most of the music I've played has been for D) have a more focused sound (remember, there are also Ebs out there that companies build like a Bb, so this comment would not count in those cases) and often seems to work better with chamber ensembles, and most of the time I'm playing baroque music, it is with a chamber ensemble and not with a large symphony orchestra. In those cases, having a bit fat Bb sound just covers things up rather than supporting the ensemble unless the player has good control and taste. Just as a descant horn doesn't make a horn player play higher, an Eb or piccolo trumpet does not make a trumpet player play higher either. However, it does separate the notes better in the harmonic series, which makes playing high music a little more predictable. My 2 cents worth. Joyce date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 12:04:26 -0500 from: "Steve Freides" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Is there a trumpet list similar to this horn list? My son plays both, I play only French Horn, but I am now in need of a place to ask a few trumpet questions as I look around for a second instrument for him while his main trumpet gets cleaned and replated. Two similar curiosity questions I will ask here if anyone wishes to reply (and please do feel free to reply privated) - I know French Horn players have their horn and learn to transpose on it, and I know trumpet players tend not to be as good as transposing as French Horn players. That in mind: 1. Do some/many/most professional orchestral trumpet players own trumpets pitched in C for playing things at concert pitch? 2. Do some/many/most who play Baroque music or other music written for Eb trumpet own and use an Eb trumpet? I helped a local band director transpose some Eb trumpet parts so that Bb players could play them normally, and they really did end up being quite high. I also can't imagine someone playing the first movement of the Haydn trumpet concerto on a Bb instrument (although I guess it's possible). Thanks in advance, and apologies for the digression. -S- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1214 - Release Date: 1/8/2008 1:38 PM _______________________________________________ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org