Kendall, from what I understand, only 1 Kruspe flare was assayed, and given
the very nature of handmade instruments of that vintage, there was probably
a great deal of variance between the alloys available to Kruspe at the time,
thus I don't believe that there is a 'standard' Kruspe alloy. Having worked
on hundreds of these older Kruspes and 8d's, I would not agree that it was
the difference in alloys used in the mouthpipe that accounts for the
difference in sound.  (Was the Kruspe mouthpipe assayed as well? Or just the
flare?)  Kruspe instruments had seamed tubing throughout their entire
length, and if one takes measurements they'll find that it is nowhere near
concentric.  (Conn horns of that vintage hold their diameter throughout the
bends far better than did the Kruspes).  The earlier Kruspes also did not
have as well fit valves as did the 8D's that followed.  Basically, Kruspes
were made to the best standard possibilities at that time, which would not
fare as well in modern times.  Now tubing is extruded or drawn, not
handhammered around a mandrel - causing it to keep it's internal dimensions
with far more accuracy.  So, perhaps it was these inaccuracies in the
building process which gave them their fabulous sound (and horrendous
scale).

These are just a few of the MANY differences between the Horner model and
the 8D.  I could fill pages with other differences between them. 

Lastly - Conn didn't really make a 'boo-boo' - they ended up making a horn
that was the touchstone in American hornplaying for about 2 decades, and to
this day (though, the current product is not like the earlier model), they
sell more horns than just about anyone!

My final point would be that one can do all the designing he wants on a
computer, perhaps they can even build what they claim to be a 'perfect'
horn, but as a Kruspe, Geyer, or Schmidt can show you - they can't give you
that golden sound associated with many of the older horns.  Horn design is
both a Science AND an Art.  Believe your ears, not a computer printout!

Sincerely
Ken Pope


<<where Conn really made a boo-boo.  They used  plain old nickel-silver and
not 
the nickel-bronze type alloy that Kruspe  used.  That helps explain the 
difference in sound between silver Kruspe's  and the Conn 8D.  Close, but
not 
quite 
a cigar.>>

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