There are many theories on this.  Having played some awful Elkhart 8Ds,
and a couple of decent Texas 8Ds, I would have to say that the Elkhart
8Ds were "less inconsistent" (sic) than those made in Texas after Conn
moved.  Later, after Conn moved up to Eastlake, there was a rekindled
interest (late 80's, early 90's?)  in new 8Ds among many pros, who until
then would play only vintage Elkhart horns.  I'm pretty sure hornist /
craftsman Chuck Ward had a great deal to do with this phenomenon in
terms of the horns being decent, and certainly Phil Myers and others in
N.Y. were pretty high on those new horns at that time.

I have a good friend in Albany who plays a Texas 8D and sounds great.
He has a very good horn, and he's a very good player.  My motto is,
"leave no horn unplayed". (my friends are laughing at me right now) Or
as one of my relatives says, "I've never met a horn I didn't like...(at
first)." 

As for the Eroica, I had a classmate who played one, and James Chambers,
who was reputed (falsely) to be an 8D only teacher, still let her into
his studio.  I auditioned on a King Fidelio, and he and Mr. D'Intinis
let me in (to the school) as well.  For some reason, I remember Chuck
Ward having something to do with those horns too.

Orlando 


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Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 1:10 PM
To: horn@music.memphis.edu
Subject: Re: [Hornlist] RE:King Eroika horn

Is an Abilene 8d necessarily not as good a horn as an Elkhart or
current 
(wherever they make them now) 8d?  If so, what are the  problems?
 
Ron
 
 
In a message dated 3/15/2008 8:48:07 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

This is  purely an amateurs opinion.  I currently play
on a King Eroika that  had the bell cut and the lacquer
stripped.  I originally got it as a  travel horn, but
started playing it more than my Abilene 8D because  the
valves work so much better. Now, for one group I'm in,
it's my horn  of choice.

The Eroika is not a small horn; you have to put a lot
of  air though it.  It is also a very dark horn that
can get quite loud  without turning.  If you prefer a
bright sound, then you will not like  the Eroika.  If
the phase of the moon is just so,  with the  proper
section of music in the proper range, that horn will
just open up  and sing.  I've never been able to do
that on my  8D.

Kathy
Anaheim, CA

-------Original  Message-------

Anyone have any experience w/ the King Eroika horn?  
Please tell me about it.   Valerie



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