There are many theories on this. Having played some awful Elkhart 8Ds, and a couple of decent Texas 8Ds, I would have to say that the Elkhart 8Ds were "less inconsistent" (sic) than those made in Texas after Conn moved. Later, after Conn moved up to Eastlake, there was a rekindled interest (late 80's, early 90's?) in new 8Ds among many pros, who until then would play only vintage Elkhart horns. I'm pretty sure hornist / craftsman Chuck Ward had a great deal to do with this phenomenon in terms of the horns being decent, and certainly Phil Myers and others in N.Y. were pretty high on those new horns at that time.
I have a good friend in Albany who plays a Texas 8D and sounds great. He has a very good horn, and he's a very good player. My motto is, "leave no horn unplayed". (my friends are laughing at me right now) Or as one of my relatives says, "I've never met a horn I didn't like...(at first)." As for the Eroica, I had a classmate who played one, and James Chambers, who was reputed (falsely) to be an 8D only teacher, still let her into his studio. I auditioned on a King Fidelio, and he and Mr. D'Intinis let me in (to the school) as well. For some reason, I remember Chuck Ward having something to do with those horns too. Orlando -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 1:10 PM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: Re: [Hornlist] RE:King Eroika horn Is an Abilene 8d necessarily not as good a horn as an Elkhart or current (wherever they make them now) 8d? If so, what are the problems? Ron In a message dated 3/15/2008 8:48:07 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is purely an amateurs opinion. I currently play on a King Eroika that had the bell cut and the lacquer stripped. I originally got it as a travel horn, but started playing it more than my Abilene 8D because the valves work so much better. Now, for one group I'm in, it's my horn of choice. The Eroika is not a small horn; you have to put a lot of air though it. It is also a very dark horn that can get quite loud without turning. If you prefer a bright sound, then you will not like the Eroika. If the phase of the moon is just so, with the proper section of music in the proper range, that horn will just open up and sing. I've never been able to do that on my 8D. Kathy Anaheim, CA -------Original Message------- Anyone have any experience w/ the King Eroika horn? Please tell me about it. Valerie ________________________________________________________________________ ______ ______ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ _______________________________________________ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/marksueron%40aol.com **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) _______________________________________________ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/pandolfi%40deerfield.edu _______________________________________________ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org