I agree entirely with both of you.
My point is that if the OP buys a worn 8d, it may turn out to be a very
expensive mistake. If what he really wants to do is _learn_ horn repair it
doesn't matter if the horn never ends up playable. Take some dents out.
Accidentally put a hole in it then learn about annealing. Patch it.
Desolder and resolder some joints. For $100 it would still be a cheap
learning experience. I guess an old trumpet or other instrument might be
cheaper.
Kit
> I'll echo what Richard said. I troll eBay regularly looking for horns
> that I can fix up and re-sell for a profit. But, the thing is, I never
> buy any because for the most part, they go for too much in their decrepit
> state to leave any room for profit. That's with me doing the work myself,
> and I'm fast and good. Case in point, I had a silver plated 6D a few
> years ago, pretty leaky and not a great player but kinda cool looking
> because of the silver. Early '50s. I got 800.00 for it on eBay. A
> couple of years later I got another one, same thing. I completely rebuilt
> the valves - tight baby!, replaced the leadpipe and a couple of slide
> crooks with brand new silver plated ones to match. Took out all the
> dents. It played great! I got 825.00 for it on eBay. Now, maybe that
> was about right (this was a few years ago), but the first one certainly
> went for way too much!
>
> - Steve Mumford
>
> -
>
> Kit Wolf wrote:
>
>
> Look on Ebay and get a really beat up horn for $100 - or less. The more
> beat-up, the more you'll learn. And it won't matter so much if you make
>
> a serious mistake.
>
> ----------
> and then Richard wrote:
>
> In my experience, none of these assertions is valid. First off, smashed up
> old
> 8D's go for ridiculously high prices. For less than $100 you can get any
> number of single F horns except Yamaha's. Many can be rewarding learning
> projects. When you get done, you may be able to sell it for a bit more
> than you
> paid for it. Any double horn you pick up for less than $100 will be a
> nightmare
> to repair and probably won't be playable when you get done.
>
> Horns that are complete disasters take a lot of experience to untangle.
> You
> learn more by starting with horns that need relatively minor repairs and
> work
> you way up to progressively more complex situations. Note that only about
> 1/2 -
> 2/3 of the junkers I pick up can be restored to where I'm willing to list
> them. The rest await the torch where they are disassembled for parts or
> recycling. ("NO DISASSEMBLE! NO DISASSEMBLE!" - Johnny 5)
>
> I have a few horns listed on hornplayer.net, and my write-ups give some
> idea
> (simplified) of what I had to do to get them to market. Look for my two
> King and
> one Yamaha doubles. I also have a couple of very good playing single F
> horns
> there, that have been languishing for over a year.
>
> Regards,
> Richard Hirsh
>
>
>
>
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