My Holton 200 descant also has a stopping valve on both sides -- although it's a bit awkward to hold both thumb triggers at once. My Paxman compensator also has stopping valves on both sides -- so maybe it's not so uncommon.

John

On 17 Apr 2009, at 00:40, Robson Adabo de Mello wrote:

Nice!

I was searching and found that Kalison has a descant with stopping valve on
2 sides. It's the model L22.

http://www.netupandgo.com/frenchhorns/kshtoorder.htm


2009/4/16 <johnlwil...@aol.com>

The Alexander 104 and 1104 have A+/E 5th valves. Just same as 103 and
1103 but with 5th valve, two thumb triggers.  musik-alexander.de


In a message dated 4/16/2009 4:06:30 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
dcr...@willamette.edu writes:

then  there was the rotor change valve to E (operated with a sort of
switch) on  the main turning slide of some old C F Schmidts

Dave
At 6:25 PM  -0300 4/16/09, Robson Adabo de Mello wrote:
Can the stopping valve be used on difficult passages or concertos on
non-friendly keys,  like E major?

Sure, no reason not to.

By the  way, will someone please tell me which of
the hundreds of horn  concertos are written for
stopped horn?


If the answer is yes, why the stopping valve is placed just on the Bb
side?

Because stopping, done properly, raises the  pitch
of the F horn a half step. On the Bb side, the
same  stopped hand position raises the pitch more
than a half step,  therefore, a stopping valve is
offered on some  horns.


Is it necessary to play the whole concerto  on the Bb (A) side?

No. Again, someone clue me in on what  concerto
(I'm after only one) is for stopped horn
throughout.  Yeah, I know you're a trumpet player.
Okay, then, I'll settle for a  trumpet concerto
written for muted  trumpet.


Is there any
double horn with  stopping valve on both sides?

I've never seen one, but I  haven't seen all the horns that are out
there.


Is  there any double descant
with stopping valve on both  sides?

I would say this would not be applicable since
these horns (I assume you mean high F and high
Bb, same as a Bb  trumpet) would not be used for
pieces requiring stopped notes. As in  Baroque
music.

Actually, maybe someone can answer this  question.
Why do descants in Bb and high F sometimes have
stopping valves when one can stop on the high F
side just fine,  fingering a whole step lower?

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Carlberg  Jones
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Cornista - Orquesta Sinfónica de  Aguascalientes
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