Maning,
Andrew Buck, Will Skora and I have organized a Support group fo teams deployed
in Africa this summer. Following our various experiences in Haiti and African
countries, we started to discuss about solutions to facilitate training in the
context of various OS and poor quality / low internet bandwith and brought this
subject to the Tech WG. Various actions can be taken to reduce utilization of
internet bandwith and facilitate support to the trainees.
Other then the points mentionned by you and Harry, we discussed of ways to
facilitate operations with various equipments and softwares. An interesting
proposition from Andrew Buck is to use a VirtualBox where a Ubuntu Linux OS
package woud be used. This has not been tested yet. But it should facilitate
operations in a classroom with various OS. Everyone would use the same os and
software versions. In a classroom software updates could also be centralized on
one computer and then copied to the usb keys.
For map caching, Ushahidi BRCK has been proposed but we dont know the specs of
this equipment yet. It would be interesting to look at the various possible
solutions acting as a bridge between internet and the classroom computers and
contributing to reduce the internet bandwith usage.
Pierre
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De : Harry Wood <m...@harrywood.co.uk>
À : maning sambale <emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com>; HOT <hot@openstreetmap.org>
Envoyé le : Jeudi 26 septembre 2013 11h49
Objet : Re: [HOT] HOT stick (Portable Apps) for Training/Workshops
Blurting out some thoughts on this.
Dane Springmeyer worked on a "Installer" thing a long time ago:
https://github.com/hotosm/installer
Looks at bit old and Mapnik oriented (and Mapnik's moved on a lot!)
It makes reference to a "HOT Package" page:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team/HOT_Package
More recently we discussed the idea in the tech working group
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team/Working_groups/Technical/meeting_2013-07-01
And I think mapbox have a neat USB vector tile rendering thing up their
sleaves: https://vine.co/v/b0DvTPnpPtw
We also discussed Ushahidi BRCK which has some storage capacity. Could do map
caching tricks.
For applications there's a version management challenge. I think an idea we
discussed was approaching this as a "build script" problem. You can distribute
USB keys with lots of useful and up-to-date software and docs and data if you
have a script to pull it all together.
But yes portableapps.com is interesting. I used to find the site very useful
back when I developed on windows. I notice they have a development section
http://portableapps.com/development to help people "portabalize" apps. A lot of
the apps currently listed are quite mass-market. Not sure how JOSM and QGIS
would fit into their categories, or whether they would want them on the central
portableapps.com listings. Also I don't think they have web applications just a
XAMPP server, so I guess installing things like field papers would still need
to be scripted outside of that framework.
Harry
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From: maning sambale <emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com>
To: HOT <hot@openstreetmap.org>
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Sent: Thursday, 26 September 2013, 3:47
Subject: [HOT] HOT stick (Portable Apps) for Training/Workshops
Dear HOTties,
Has anyone tried building a USB Stick that runs all the needed
applications for an OSM Training?
For a series of training we will conduct, we are anticipating a lot of
different configurations and MS Windows versions. They may use a
computer lab or their own laptops.
Instead of just giving the participants copies of the software
installers, we are thinking of building a PortableApp [0] stick
containing all the needed apps and resources.
Anyone tried this approach? How is it effective?
A few things we want in the stick are:
* JOSM including all the necessary plugins (FieldPapers, Notes,
DirectUpload, GPXEdit, Building tools, Presets, GeoChat, Measurement,
Mirrored downloads, Reverter, Terracer)
* GPSBabel
* QGIS
* PDF reader
* Firefox or Chrome
* 7-Zip
* ClamWin
* Notepad++
* Learning materials (either offline or pdf version of learnOSM)
* Installers - installers of the above software
[0] http://portableapps.com/apps
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cheers,
maning
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