Claire,
I'm sorry to hear that. I've put next week in my diary.
Keep up the good work.
Nick
On 13/09/14 03:20, Claire Halleux wrote:
Ralph and Nick,
Thank you very much for your suggestions.
Unfortunately we were forced tonight to report the event for security
reasonsus, it will therefore take place next Saturday instead.
However, despite that fact, data are still urgently needed in order to
improve the response coordination and they cannot be waiting for
another week.
HIU and others have been doing their best to deliver new imagery this
night, so I will set up new tasks tomorrow morning, any volunteer will
be able to access those tasks throughtand we still need to trace on it
in order to fill the gaps between the previous past tasks.data are
still quite needed on.
Claire Halleux
Volunteer and Member of the Board
+243 99 256 9980 (Kinshasa, DRC)
Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team
http://www.hotosm.org/
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2014_DRC_Ebola_Response
On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 8:00 PM, Nick Allen <nick.allen...@gmail.com
<mailto:nick.allen...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Claire,
I may be able to help a bit at the start of the session, but I
have a commitment for most of the day & evening - if there are any
outstanding squares for validation I will try to join in later at
night.
Could I suggest we try to keep it as close to normal as possible
- if I check a square & am happy, I will validate it, but may put
a comment in the comments box concerning any slight changes I may
make. Because of my lack of language skills, I created these two
links on the wiki which could be pasted into the comments box &
hopefully would help to pass information;
Buildings which have not been squared, but should have been
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Tasking_Manager/Validating_data/Buildings_feedback
Not adding a changeset comment when saving / uploading
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Tasking_Manager/Validating_data/Changeset_comment_missing
I sometimes send a message using the OSM message system, and on
occasion have linked the message with screenshots showing the
changes I have made.
I strongly suspect that smaller squares will mean that it is more
difficult to interpret
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Highway_Tag_Africa but this
will not be the fault of the new mapper, just an indication of how
difficult it is when you can only see a small area. It will need
the validator(s) to take an overview of several squares & change
the tags appropriatly - this is fairly easy once the mapper has
done the difficult & time consuming job of tracing the path /
track / unclassified / residential ............. way.
Hope this helps.
Regards & have a good day.
Nick
On 12/09/14 02:51, Claire Halleux wrote:
Hi Nick and Volunteers,
On Saturday morning, from 900 to 1300 UTC, we'll be having
another small mapathon/mapping party in Kinshasa in order to edit
Ebola affected area in DRC, using some new imagery. Nearly all of
the participants will be beginners, so I am planning to create
another task with small squares and I think this could be a good
place for testing this type of training task. Potential
validators will be welcome to send feedback during the event. As
it usually gathers between 10 and 20 participants, a few
validators would be enough in theory.
Let me know if anyone would like to support this event,
Moreover, do you think exchanging messages within TM and OSM
website will be enough? or should we try to set up an additional
skype group or anything else for the event? IRC? (local
participants have never used it as far as I know, same with Mumble).
Best,
Claire
Claire Halleux
Volunteer and Member of the Board
+243 99 256 9980 (Kinshasa, DRC)
Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team
http://www.hotosm.org/
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2014_DRC_Ebola_Response
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 12:39 AM, Nick Allen
<nick.allen...@gmail.com <mailto:nick.allen...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Ralph,
Thanks for the offer of help - you're likely to see a request
for help approaching the 30th September when we have another
Missing Maps Project Mapathon in London.
I'm really hoping that Blake can make progress on a guide to
satellite imagery - it's been on my todo list for some time,
but I'm conscious I've started many things and it would be
good if I actually finished a few of them. Although I agree
that starting new mappers with crisp images would be good, I
think it would be good to include a few fuzzy ones in the
guide to show what you have to deal with sometimes - educated
guessing?
At the moment I'm not intending to contact mappers who have
not marked as complete the squares they have opened. There
can be genuine reasons - it's happened to me several times.
It can also be a question of confidence & I don't want to
frighten anyone away. If we can get a trial area, and the
trial works, then this may largely solve the problem. I think
also that the general discussion will have raised awareness &
that can make a difference as well.
Thanks again
Nick
(Tallguy)
On 09/09/14 17:53, AYTOUN RALPH wrote:
Hi Nick,
I have been mapping the Africa HOT projects and am familiar
with the 'on the ground' knowledge of some parts of Africa.
I like your idea for assisting the new mappers and agree
that some of the image material is pretty difficult to map
due to various reasons...cloud cover, fuzzy images or
overcrowded towns and slum areas to mention some.
Choosing easier areas with sharp images would help the new
mappers to get the feel of the work and build up confidence,
and having feedback for their work early on would help them
to know if they are doing the right thing or not.
To this end I am willing to give you a hand in helping new
mappers to read the imagery, create more complex building
shapes and the use of basic tags. Please let me know if
there is anything I can do to help.
I have come across the increasing problem of mappers not
happy about marking squares as done, I have gone to numerous
squares and apart from a few tweaks there is nothing left to
do, but a number of mappers have opened that square, looked
around and then unlocked it again. I feel guilty marking
those squares as done when I have hardly done any work on
them. Should we contact the person that has done the most
work and tell them they have done well and could they please
go back in and mark it as done so they get the credit for
closing it?
Regards
Ralph
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