Hi,

For info of all who are consciously validating squares (& a few who may not realise they have been validating).

I've been contacted concerning one of the very successful recent mapathons. A little research after the event has shown that several squares of at least one project have been marked as validated by mappers extremely new to the system - unfortunately the squares are not up to standard and more work is taking place to correct this.

We think that the likely scenario is - When all squares of a project are either complete or locked by another mapper, Tasking Manager will allocate you a square to validate - if you are extremely new to the system you probably will not realise what has happened and will look round the square & then add a brief comment before marking the square as done. Having spoken at several mapathons, and listened to other mappers giving guidance I know that;
a/. you can't say everything before letting someone start, &
b/. even if you did they probably wouldn't remember it all anyway.

I've added to the entry on the tasking manager in learnOSM - link is http://learnosm.org/en/coordination/tasking-manager/#contribute-tab & I ask that validators just bear this in mind - have a quick look at the usernames of others who have validated within the project you are working on, and be prepared to reopen squares that may have already been validated if there are problems. I'm not talking about 'they missed one building in the middle of 200', I'm talking about buildings should have been traced, there were hundreds, but none were traced!

I can see how easy a mistake it is to make, and I think it's something we should be aware of and try to negate in the future. Meanwhile I suggest that if you find one, send a message to the mapper concerned including the above link.

To my knowledge there has never been a decision about what qualifications are required before someone validates, and I'm not sure there is an answer to that - a few of my thoughts; 1. I've checked up on one validator who had (at the time I checked) never completed a square - extremely good mapper with lots of experience in other areas of mapping, and gives good feedback - if it's you, keep up the good work, thanks. 2. I found someone mapping on the day their OSM username was issued. Their mapping was obviously well beyond the standard we expect of a new mapper. On sending a message I established they wanted a new username to use whilst mapping for HOT - I asked them to start validating. Again, keep up the good work, thanks.
3. I'm still learning.

Perhaps this is something for discussion at one of the working groups.
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Nick

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