Ok, also on the ‘front-page’ of the Tasking Manager where you see the ‘brief’ 
of the project, you can find out who the specific Project Manager/creator is 
and maybe get clarification or ask them to specify in the instructions.

=Russ

 

From: john whelan [mailto:jwhelan0...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 1:35 PM
To: Russell Deffner
Cc: Daniel Specht; hot@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [HOT] how newer mappers can help a lot with the validation process

 

I think the classic that Daniel identified is map all roads.  Does it mean 
highway=unclassified and above, everything including tracks?  Adding tracks in 
can double the amount of effort.

Perhaps if we had some sort of validation of the project instructions before 
the tile is released?

I think best practises covers it nicely.  Perhaps in the training mention that 
projects with simple clear instructions have a better completion rate than more 
muzzy ones?

Cheerio John

 

On 16 February 2016 at 13:11, Russell Deffner <russell.deff...@hotosm.org> 
wrote:

Hi John,

 

It feels a bit odd to try and reply ‘on behalf of the AWG’ to…

So HOT activation group can you first inspect the instructions and then confirm 
with the project managers to see if we can reduce the possibility of different 
interpretations?  ie keep them as simple as possible.

But I think what you’re trying to address is a bit of a training/communication 
thing; each Project is created by an individual account that has 
permission/privilege on whatever instance of the Tasking Manager the project is 
created on. The main HOT instance for example has somewhere around 100 
people/accounts that can create projects there. In order to try and get ‘better 
instructions’ we have set-up a mailing list for everyone to communicate 
(tm-project-managers@) and ideally we’ll get some great training via courses@ 
and LearnOSM.  In other words, we really do need to create some ‘best 
practices’ for making the most efficient projects for the desired result, but 
some of that needs to be HOT/Disaster specific and some should be more broad to 
help those running other instances of the Tasking Manager – such as TeachOSM.

 

Anyway, great discussion – just trying to direct some action – it is on the 
Activation WG Trello to ‘further utilize’ the tm mailing list, training, etc.

 

=Russ

 

From: john whelan [mailto:jwhelan0...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 7:19 AM
To: Daniel Specht
Cc: hot@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [HOT] how newer mappers can help a lot with the validation process

 

So to clarify what you're saying is the project instructions should be much 
more precise.  The project managers should ask for precisely what is needed 
rather than we'd like everything since when we are imprecise different mappers 
and validators interpret the instructions differently.  Also asking for 
everything takes away resources from other projects.

So HOT activation group can you first inspect the instructions and then confirm 
with the project managers to see if we can reduce the possibility of different 
interpretations?  ie keep them as simple as possible.

Would it be an idea to go over the "abandoned" projects iethose that have been 
around for more than a year and see if by reducing the requested instructions 
we can at least get the highways and the major landuse=residential areas in?

Cheerio John

 

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