Hi Jaakko, Thanks for your response. Yes, I've also realized the problem we were having was actually to uploading the data in API. I was a bit confused with that and that's why asked the question.
probably the Internet connectivity might also be the reason. Thanks anyway, Ribin OSM-BD On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 11:13 PM, Jaakko Helleranta <jaa...@helleranta.com> wrote: > Hi Ribin, > > The website problem in question was about the HOT website, hotosm.org. > > You seem to be are having a problem uploading data to the osm.org API ( > http://api.openstreetmap.org/api). > > I've never been to Bangladesh and don't have any idea of the > quality/stability of your Internet connection but the problem might very > well have to do with that in stead of the osm.org. In fact, it likely is > a problem with something in the connection in the local end. It can be > really annoying, I know. But there's unfortunately not very much you can do > about it except try to ensure that e.g. people are not using the connection > that you are using unnecessarily. > > It sometimes happens that downloading more data also makes the upload link > slower or more choppy. I've experienced that both in Nicaragua and Haiti, > which are my two main points of experience in less-than-perfect > connections. So, what ever download activity (media such as videos even > photos, even just a lot of "normal" web browsing, especially downloading of > some bigger chunks of data) might well impact your ability to upload OSM > edits to the osm.org API. > > With best regards from Managua, > -Jaakko > > > > -- > Nicaragua main mobile/WhatsApp: +505-8131-0729, alt. m. 8845-3391 > Global (Google) Voice / SMS: +1-202-730-9778 * Skype: jhelleranta > Twitter/IRC/Mumble: @jaakkoh * My profile: http://about.me/jaakkoh > > On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 7:23 AM, Tasauf A Baki Billah < > tasauf1...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> We are having a mapping party at Dhaka and it seems we are having >> frequent problem getting the data uploaded.. >> It seems the website is down for a while. Is it so or there's any other >> problem??? >> >> Ribin >> OSMBD >> On Feb 17, 2016 6:14 PM, <hot-requ...@openstreetmap.org> wrote: >> >> Send HOT mailing list submissions to >> hot@openstreetmap.org >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> hot-requ...@openstreetmap.org >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> hot-ow...@openstreetmap.org >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of HOT digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Website down? (Jorieke Vyncke) >> 2. Activation WG Meeting (Mhairi O'Hara) >> 3. Re: Website down? (Russell Deffner) >> 4. Missing Maps Event Calendar (Mike Thompson) >> 5. Re: how newer mappers can help a lot with the validation >> process (john whelan) >> 6. Re: Missing Maps Event Calendar (Katie Filbert) >> 7. Re: Missing Maps Event Calendar (Blake Girardot) >> 8. HOT Summit quick update (Mikel Maron) >> 9. HOT Summit Quick Update (mikel.ma...@hotosm.org) >> 10. Re: Missing Maps Event Calendar (Mike Thompson) >> 11. Re: how newer mappers can help a lot with the validation >> process (Russell Deffner) >> 12. Re: how newer mappers can help a lot with the validation >> process (john whelan) >> 13. Re: how newer mappers can help a lot with the validation >> process (Russell Deffner) >> 14. How to identify oneself when promoting a mapathon? (Mike Thompson) >> 15. Re: How to identify oneself when promoting a mapathon? >> (Heather Leson) >> 16. Re: How to identify oneself when promoting a mapathon? >> (Mike Thompson) >> 17. Re: HOT in Research - Casual meetup (Heather Leson) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2016 12:01:55 +0000 >> From: Jorieke Vyncke <jorieke.vyn...@gmail.com> >> To: Chris Fleming <m...@chrisfleming.org> >> Cc: "hot@openstreetmap.org" <hot@openstreetmap.org> >> Subject: Re: [HOT] Website down? >> Message-ID: >> < >> caeo7yf7bvvjsgklbpcnk8ytqzqtwpdt8h2y56whvnx7b_rt...@mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >> >> Thanks for your quick reactions! >> Happy it's not a problem at my level ;-) >> Hope it will be solved soon... >> >> Greetings, Jorieke >> >> 2016-02-16 11:54 GMT, Chris Fleming <m...@chrisfleming.org>: >> > Looks like it's down to me, error message is: >> > >> > *PDOException*: SQLSTATE[HY000] [1129] Host 'hotwww.local' is blocked >> > because of many connection errors; unblock with 'mysqladmin >> flush-hosts' in >> > *lock_may_be_available()* (line *167* of */var/www/includes/lock.inc*). >> > >> > Cheers >> > Chris >> > >> > On Tue, 16 Feb 2016 at 11:49 Jorieke Vyncke <jorieke.vyn...@gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> > >> >> Our website (https://hotosm.org/) is down? >> >> Or is it just my connection doing difficult... >> >> >> >> Best, Jorieke >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> HOT mailing list >> >> HOT@openstreetmap.org >> >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2016 20:01:43 +0700 >> From: "Mhairi O'Hara" <mhairi.oh...@hotosm.org> >> To: HOT <hot@openstreetmap.org>, Activation WG <activat...@hotosm.org> >> Subject: [HOT] Activation WG Meeting >> Message-ID: >> <CAByqXH+tFyXCDr-uCnw260RDtu5OHoq585kwqCEPee79Q= >> w...@mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> Just a reminder that the Activation WG meeting is starting now (Tuesday >> 16th Feb 1300 UTC) if you would like to attend on IRC Chat: >> >> https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.oftc.net/hot >> >> Please find the agenda for the meeting on the Activation WG Trello board: >> >> https://trello.com/b/ogU4Wjd6/hot-activation-wg >> >> Kind regards, >> >> Mhairi >> >> -- >> Mhairi O'Hara >> Mobile: +62 822 4701 1475 >> Email: mhairi.oh...@hotosm.org >> twitter <https://twitter.com/mataharimhairi> | linkedin >> <http://uk.linkedin.com/in/mhairiohara> | facebook >> <https://www.facebook.com/hotosm> | website <http://hotosm.org/> >> >> *Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team * >> *Using OpenStreetMap for Humanitarian Response & Economic Development* >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: < >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/hot/attachments/20160216/90b89854/attachment-0001.html >> > >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2016 06:59:14 -0700 >> From: Russell Deffner <russell.deff...@hotosm.org> >> To: "'Jorieke Vyncke'" <jorieke.vyn...@gmail.com>, "'Chris Fleming'" >> <m...@chrisfleming.org> >> Cc: Sys Admin <sysad...@hotosm.org>, hot@openstreetmap.org >> Subject: Re: [HOT] Website down? >> Message-ID: <005701d168c2$38b9cd60$aa2d6820$@hotosm.org> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >> >> Looks like it's back up, just for future reference, I think it's >> sysadmin@hotosm you want to ping for outages and such. >> =Russ >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Jorieke Vyncke [mailto:jorieke.vyn...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 5:02 AM >> To: Chris Fleming >> Cc: hot@openstreetmap.org >> Subject: Re: [HOT] Website down? >> >> Thanks for your quick reactions! >> Happy it's not a problem at my level ;-) >> Hope it will be solved soon... >> >> Greetings, Jorieke >> >> 2016-02-16 11:54 GMT, Chris Fleming <m...@chrisfleming.org>: >> > Looks like it's down to me, error message is: >> > >> > *PDOException*: SQLSTATE[HY000] [1129] Host 'hotwww.local' is blocked >> > because of many connection errors; unblock with 'mysqladmin >> flush-hosts' in >> > *lock_may_be_available()* (line *167* of */var/www/includes/lock.inc*). >> > >> > Cheers >> > Chris >> > >> > On Tue, 16 Feb 2016 at 11:49 Jorieke Vyncke <jorieke.vyn...@gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> > >> >> Our website (https://hotosm.org/) is down? >> >> Or is it just my connection doing difficult... >> >> >> >> Best, Jorieke >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> HOT mailing list >> >> HOT@openstreetmap.org >> >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >> >> >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> HOT mailing list >> HOT@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2016 07:02:51 -0700 >> From: Mike Thompson <miketh...@gmail.com> >> To: HOT <hot@openstreetmap.org> >> Subject: [HOT] Missing Maps Event Calendar >> Message-ID: >> < >> caljouktjeoy1qrlf4qtj4qsznhykfhnxzlanbibqmuyoxty...@mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> How do we get our event listed on this calendar: >> http://www.missingmaps.org/#events >> >> Information about the event is here: >> http://www.meetup.com/OSM-Colorado/events/228614359/ >> >> Thanks, >> >> Mike >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: < >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/hot/attachments/20160216/cab074fb/attachment-0001.html >> > >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 5 >> Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2016 09:18:46 -0500 >> From: john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> >> To: Daniel Specht <danspe...@gmail.com> >> Cc: "hot@openstreetmap.org" <HOT@openstreetmap.org> >> Subject: Re: [HOT] how newer mappers can help a lot with the >> validation process >> Message-ID: >> < >> caj-ex1em8bxbhrc4cpbf8u8kjfc7dkqtphybn0kcl08hdz6...@mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> So to clarify what you're saying is the project instructions should be >> much >> more precise. The project managers should ask for precisely what is >> needed >> rather than we'd like everything since when we are imprecise different >> mappers and validators interpret the instructions differently. Also >> asking >> for everything takes away resources from other projects. >> >> So HOT activation group can you first inspect the instructions and then >> confirm with the project managers to see if we can reduce the possibility >> of different interpretations? ie keep them as simple as possible. >> >> Would it be an idea to go over the "abandoned" projects iethose that have >> been around for more than a year and see if by reducing the requested >> instructions we can at least get the highways and the major >> landuse=residential areas in? >> >> Cheerio John >> >> >> >> On 12 February 2016 at 11:01, Daniel Specht <danspe...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > > On 11 Feb 2016 15:49, "john whelan" <jwhelan0...@gmail.com >> > > <mailto:jwhelan0...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> > > >> > > In there somewhere in a wiki or some such where we can document >> > > validation, what works and why and what to look for? Perhaps put down >> > > some sort of service level agreement ie after validation we are only >> > > looking for what is requested in the instructions and for a JOSM >> > > validotian to be run. We expect 97% of settlements to be mapped type >> > > thing? That way people who wish to validate have something to feel >> > > confident about. >> > > >> > > We need to get more people into validation. >> > > >> > > Thanks >> > > >> > > Cheerio John >> > >> > John's right -- we need more people validating, and we can accomplish >> that >> > by explaining how to validate in the instructions, just as we explain >> how >> > to map in the instructions. The instructions should have two parts -- >> > what the customer wants, and what the customer needs. Currently the >> > instructions only describe what the customer wants. What the customer >> > needs, the (generally unstated) validation requirements, are at least as >> > important as the instructions themselves, and they won't be the same for >> > all projects any more than the instructions will. >> > >> > -- >> > Dan >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > HOT mailing list >> > HOT@openstreetmap.org >> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >> > >> > >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: < >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/hot/attachments/20160216/4dd4286b/attachment-0001.html >> > >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 6 >> Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2016 15:24:27 +0100 >> From: Katie Filbert <filbe...@gmail.com> >> To: Mike Thompson <miketh...@gmail.com> >> Cc: HOT <hot@openstreetmap.org> >> Subject: Re: [HOT] Missing Maps Event Calendar >> Message-ID: >> <CAE4hJ8e2srEPM=7npO8hRpi9b1zp1y=N8wn5Bv_L1Hh2Ov= >> e...@mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> Here: >> >> https://github.com/MissingMaps/missingmaps.github.io/pull/69 >> >> Cheers, >> Katie >> >> On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 3:02 PM, Mike Thompson <miketh...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> > How do we get our event listed on this calendar: >> > http://www.missingmaps.org/#events >> > >> > Information about the event is here: >> > http://www.meetup.com/OSM-Colorado/events/228614359/ >> > >> > Thanks, >> > >> > Mike >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > HOT mailing list >> > HOT@openstreetmap.org >> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >> > >> > >> >> >> -- >> Katie Filbert >> filbe...@gmail.com >> @filbertkm / @wikidata >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: < >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/hot/attachments/20160216/55588ba7/attachment-0001.html >> > >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 7 >> Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2016 15:37:16 +0100 >> From: Blake Girardot <bgirar...@gmail.com> >> To: Katie Filbert <filbe...@gmail.com>, Mike Thompson >> <miketh...@gmail.com> >> Cc: HOT <hot@openstreetmap.org> >> Subject: Re: [HOT] Missing Maps Event Calendar >> Message-ID: <56c3341c.4080...@gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed >> >> >> Hi Mike, >> >> This form is the best/easiest way to get on the list on the main Missing >> Maps website: >> >> >> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/174ZAAaqtRkJtyY2657RVAMbnvs8IzujWAShZy3y3_FY/viewform >> >> Cheers, >> Blake >> >> On 2/16/2016 3:24 PM, Katie Filbert wrote: >> > Here: >> > >> > https://github.com/MissingMaps/missingmaps.github.io/pull/69 >> > >> > Cheers, >> > Katie >> > >> > On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 3:02 PM, Mike Thompson <miketh...@gmail.com >> > <mailto:miketh...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> > >> > How do we get our event listed on this calendar: >> > http://www.missingmaps.org/#events >> > >> > Information about the event is here: >> > http://www.meetup.com/OSM-Colorado/events/228614359/ >> > >> > Thanks, >> > >> > Mike >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > HOT mailing list >> > HOT@openstreetmap.org <mailto:HOT@openstreetmap.org> >> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Katie Filbert >> > filbe...@gmail.com <mailto:filbe...@gmail.com> >> > @filbertkm / @wikidata >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > HOT mailing list >> > HOT@openstreetmap.org >> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >> > >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 8 >> Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2016 15:18:20 +0000 (UTC) >> From: Mikel Maron <mikel.ma...@gmail.com> >> To: "hot@openstreetmap.org" <hot@openstreetmap.org> >> Subject: [HOT] HOT Summit quick update >> Message-ID: >> <8907945.5158061.1455635900515.javamail.ya...@mail.yahoo.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> We had a great rapid kick off meeting today for organizing HOT Summit >> 2016. Here's a few rough notes of our discussion so far. >> Talked about locations and format. Leading idea is something connected to >> SotM in Brussels. Another possibility is an additional event connected to >> ICCM in Manila. Want to connect with as much of the global HOT community as >> possible. Length in mind 1-2 days. Audience would be both established HOT >> community, and expansion to new folks -- volunteers, humanitarian orgs and >> NGOs, funders. Approximately 100-150 attendees. Scholarships could be >> really valuable, but takes fundraising and prioritization. >> We ended with a quick set of actions -- setting up a first website, look >> at logo and design, draft a concept note, and start researching venues -- >> and organized ourselves on Trello. >> Next meeting, possible next week or the week after --- we'll assess over >> email. If you'd like to get involved, send me a note, and we can add you to >> the group. -Mikel * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: < >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/hot/attachments/20160216/fe125416/attachment-0001.html >> > >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 9 >> Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2016 15:17:01 +0000 (UTC) >> From: <mikel.ma...@hotosm.org> >> To: "hot@openstreetmap.org" <hot@openstreetmap.org> >> Subject: [HOT] HOT Summit Quick Update >> Message-ID: >> <1897870843.5003790.1455635821254.javamail.ya...@mail.yahoo.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> We had a great rapid kick off meeting today for organizing HOT Summit >> 2016. Here's a few rough notes of our discussion so far. >> Talked about locations and format. Leading idea is something connected to >> SotM in Brussels. Another possibility is an additional event connected to >> ICCM in Manila. Want to connect with as much of the global HOT community as >> possible. Length in mind 1-2 days. Audience would be both established HOT >> community, and expansion to new folks -- volunteers, humanitarian orgs and >> NGOs, funders. Approximately 100-150 attendees. Scholarships could be >> really valuable, but takes fundraising and prioritization. >> We ended with a quick set of actions -- setting up a first website, look >> at logo and design, draft a concept note, and start researching venues -- >> and organized ourselves on Trello. >> Next meeting, possible next week or the week after --- we'll assess over >> email. If you'd like to get involved, send me a note, and we can add you to >> the group. -Mikel >> * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: < >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/hot/attachments/20160216/b4dd79dd/attachment-0001.html >> > >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 10 >> Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2016 08:56:56 -0700 >> From: Mike Thompson <miketh...@gmail.com> >> To: Blake Girardot <bgirar...@gmail.com> >> Cc: HOT <hot@openstreetmap.org> >> Subject: Re: [HOT] Missing Maps Event Calendar >> Message-ID: >> <CALJoUkto6Vtg2u+bvNFwj91FdsvzgSN2HkYC1jbd5nLkb= >> n...@mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> Blake, Katie, >> >> Thanks! I used the form Blake provided and now our event is listed! >> >> Mike >> >> On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 7:37 AM, Blake Girardot <bgirar...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> > >> > Hi Mike, >> > >> > This form is the best/easiest way to get on the list on the main Missing >> > Maps website: >> > >> > >> > >> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/174ZAAaqtRkJtyY2657RVAMbnvs8IzujWAShZy3y3_FY/viewform >> > >> > Cheers, >> > Blake >> > >> > On 2/16/2016 3:24 PM, Katie Filbert wrote: >> > >> >> Here: >> >> >> >> https://github.com/MissingMaps/missingmaps.github.io/pull/69 >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> Katie >> >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 3:02 PM, Mike Thompson <miketh...@gmail.com >> >> <mailto:miketh...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> >> >> How do we get our event listed on this calendar: >> >> http://www.missingmaps.org/#events >> >> >> >> Information about the event is here: >> >> http://www.meetup.com/OSM-Colorado/events/228614359/ >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> Mike >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> HOT mailing list >> >> HOT@openstreetmap.org <mailto:HOT@openstreetmap.org> >> >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Katie Filbert >> >> filbe...@gmail.com <mailto:filbe...@gmail.com> >> >> @filbertkm / @wikidata >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> HOT mailing list >> >> HOT@openstreetmap.org >> >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >> >> >> >> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: < >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/hot/attachments/20160216/9060926b/attachment-0001.html >> > >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 11 >> Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2016 11:11:55 -0700 >> From: Russell Deffner <russell.deff...@hotosm.org> >> To: "'john whelan'" <jwhelan0...@gmail.com>, "'Daniel Specht'" >> <danspe...@gmail.com> >> Cc: "'hot@openstreetmap.org'" <HOT@openstreetmap.org> >> Subject: Re: [HOT] how newer mappers can help a lot with the >> validation process >> Message-ID: <000601d168e5$85469550$8fd3bff0$@hotosm.org> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> Hi John, >> >> >> >> It feels a bit odd to try and reply ‘on behalf of the AWG’ to… >> >> So HOT activation group can you first inspect the instructions and then >> confirm with the project managers to see if we can reduce the possibility >> of different interpretations? ie keep them as simple as possible. >> >> But I think what you’re trying to address is a bit of a >> training/communication thing; each Project is created by an individual >> account that has permission/privilege on whatever instance of the Tasking >> Manager the project is created on. The main HOT instance for example has >> somewhere around 100 people/accounts that can create projects there. In >> order to try and get ‘better instructions’ we have set-up a mailing list >> for everyone to communicate (tm-project-managers@) and ideally we’ll get >> some great training via courses@ and LearnOSM. In other words, we >> really do need to create some ‘best practices’ for making the most >> efficient projects for the desired result, but some of that needs to be >> HOT/Disaster specific and some should be more broad to help those running >> other instances of the Tasking Manager – such as TeachOSM. >> >> >> >> Anyway, great discussion – just trying to direct some action – it is on >> the Activation WG Trello to ‘further utilize’ the tm mailing list, >> training, etc. >> >> >> >> =Russ >> >> >> >> From: john whelan [mailto:jwhelan0...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 7:19 AM >> To: Daniel Specht >> Cc: hot@openstreetmap.org >> Subject: Re: [HOT] how newer mappers can help a lot with the validation >> process >> >> >> >> So to clarify what you're saying is the project instructions should be >> much more precise. The project managers should ask for precisely what is >> needed rather than we'd like everything since when we are imprecise >> different mappers and validators interpret the instructions differently. >> Also asking for everything takes away resources from other projects. >> >> So HOT activation group can you first inspect the instructions and then >> confirm with the project managers to see if we can reduce the possibility >> of different interpretations? ie keep them as simple as possible. >> >> Would it be an idea to go over the "abandoned" projects iethose that have >> been around for more than a year and see if by reducing the requested >> instructions we can at least get the highways and the major >> landuse=residential areas in? >> >> Cheerio John >> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: < >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/hot/attachments/20160216/e296a5fc/attachment-0001.html >> > >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 12 >> Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2016 15:34:33 -0500 >> From: john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> >> To: Russell Deffner <russell.deff...@hotosm.org> >> Cc: Daniel Specht <danspe...@gmail.com>, "hot@openstreetmap.org" >> <HOT@openstreetmap.org> >> Subject: Re: [HOT] how newer mappers can help a lot with the >> validation process >> Message-ID: >> <CAJ-Ex1GY96yp=vKWfXvZKYD=yM-2zRMBKw4rGnHY+5_GeH5e= >> a...@mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> I think the classic that Daniel identified is map all roads. Does it mean >> highway=unclassified and above, everything including tracks? Adding >> tracks >> in can double the amount of effort. >> >> Perhaps if we had some sort of validation of the project instructions >> before the tile is released? >> >> I think best practises covers it nicely. Perhaps in the training mention >> that projects with simple clear instructions have a better completion rate >> than more muzzy ones? >> >> Cheerio John >> >> On 16 February 2016 at 13:11, Russell Deffner <russell.deff...@hotosm.org >> > >> wrote: >> >> > Hi John, >> > >> > >> > >> > It feels a bit odd to try and reply ‘on behalf of the AWG’ to… >> > >> > So HOT activation group can you first inspect the instructions and then >> > confirm with the project managers to see if we can reduce the >> possibility >> > of different interpretations? ie keep them as simple as possible. >> > >> > But I think what you’re trying to address is a bit of a >> > training/communication thing; each Project is created by an individual >> > account that has permission/privilege on whatever instance of the >> Tasking >> > Manager the project is created on. The main HOT instance for example has >> > somewhere around 100 people/accounts that can create projects there. In >> > order to try and get ‘better instructions’ we have set-up a mailing list >> > for everyone to communicate (tm-project-managers@) and ideally we’ll >> get >> > some great training via courses@ and LearnOSM. In other words, we >> really >> > do need to create some ‘best practices’ for making the most efficient >> > projects for the desired result, but some of that needs to be >> HOT/Disaster >> > specific and some should be more broad to help those running other >> > instances of the Tasking Manager – such as TeachOSM. >> > >> > >> > >> > Anyway, great discussion – just trying to direct some action – it is on >> > the Activation WG Trello to ‘further utilize’ the tm mailing list, >> > training, etc. >> > >> > >> > >> > =Russ >> > >> > >> > >> > *From:* john whelan [mailto:jwhelan0...@gmail.com] >> > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 16, 2016 7:19 AM >> > *To:* Daniel Specht >> > *Cc:* hot@openstreetmap.org >> > *Subject:* Re: [HOT] how newer mappers can help a lot with the >> validation >> > process >> > >> > >> > >> > So to clarify what you're saying is the project instructions should be >> > much more precise. The project managers should ask for precisely what >> is >> > needed rather than we'd like everything since when we are imprecise >> > different mappers and validators interpret the instructions differently. >> > Also asking for everything takes away resources from other projects. >> > >> > So HOT activation group can you first inspect the instructions and then >> > confirm with the project managers to see if we can reduce the >> possibility >> > of different interpretations? ie keep them as simple as possible. >> > >> > Would it be an idea to go over the "abandoned" projects iethose that >> have >> > been around for more than a year and see if by reducing the requested >> > instructions we can at least get the highways and the major >> > landuse=residential areas in? >> > >> > Cheerio John >> > >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: < >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/hot/attachments/20160216/51823b1a/attachment-0001.html >> > >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 13 >> Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2016 13:44:00 -0700 >> From: Russell Deffner <russell.deff...@hotosm.org> >> To: "'john whelan'" <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> >> Cc: 'Daniel Specht' <danspe...@gmail.com>, "'hot@openstreetmap.org'" >> <HOT@openstreetmap.org> >> Subject: Re: [HOT] how newer mappers can help a lot with the >> validation process >> Message-ID: <002001d168fa$c42ed010$4c8c7030$@hotosm.org> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> Ok, also on the ‘front-page’ of the Tasking Manager where you see the >> ‘brief’ of the project, you can find out who the specific Project >> Manager/creator is and maybe get clarification or ask them to specify in >> the instructions. >> >> =Russ >> >> >> >> From: john whelan [mailto:jwhelan0...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 1:35 PM >> To: Russell Deffner >> Cc: Daniel Specht; hot@openstreetmap.org >> Subject: Re: [HOT] how newer mappers can help a lot with the validation >> process >> >> >> >> I think the classic that Daniel identified is map all roads. Does it >> mean highway=unclassified and above, everything including tracks? Adding >> tracks in can double the amount of effort. >> >> Perhaps if we had some sort of validation of the project instructions >> before the tile is released? >> >> I think best practises covers it nicely. Perhaps in the training mention >> that projects with simple clear instructions have a better completion rate >> than more muzzy ones? >> >> Cheerio John >> >> >> >> On 16 February 2016 at 13:11, Russell Deffner <russell.deff...@hotosm.org> >> wrote: >> >> Hi John, >> >> >> >> It feels a bit odd to try and reply ‘on behalf of the AWG’ to… >> >> So HOT activation group can you first inspect the instructions and then >> confirm with the project managers to see if we can reduce the possibility >> of different interpretations? ie keep them as simple as possible. >> >> But I think what you’re trying to address is a bit of a >> training/communication thing; each Project is created by an individual >> account that has permission/privilege on whatever instance of the Tasking >> Manager the project is created on. The main HOT instance for example has >> somewhere around 100 people/accounts that can create projects there. In >> order to try and get ‘better instructions’ we have set-up a mailing list >> for everyone to communicate (tm-project-managers@) and ideally we’ll get >> some great training via courses@ and LearnOSM. In other words, we >> really do need to create some ‘best practices’ for making the most >> efficient projects for the desired result, but some of that needs to be >> HOT/Disaster specific and some should be more broad to help those running >> other instances of the Tasking Manager – such as TeachOSM. >> >> >> >> Anyway, great discussion – just trying to direct some action – it is on >> the Activation WG Trello to ‘further utilize’ the tm mailing list, >> training, etc. >> >> >> >> =Russ >> >> >> >> From: john whelan [mailto:jwhelan0...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 7:19 AM >> To: Daniel Specht >> Cc: hot@openstreetmap.org >> Subject: Re: [HOT] how newer mappers can help a lot with the validation >> process >> >> >> >> So to clarify what you're saying is the project instructions should be >> much more precise. The project managers should ask for precisely what is >> needed rather than we'd like everything since when we are imprecise >> different mappers and validators interpret the instructions differently. >> Also asking for everything takes away resources from other projects. >> >> So HOT activation group can you first inspect the instructions and then >> confirm with the project managers to see if we can reduce the possibility >> of different interpretations? ie keep them as simple as possible. >> >> Would it be an idea to go over the "abandoned" projects iethose that have >> been around for more than a year and see if by reducing the requested >> instructions we can at least get the highways and the major >> landuse=residential areas in? >> >> Cheerio John >> >> >> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: < >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/hot/attachments/20160216/500f55b6/attachment-0001.html >> > >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 14 >> Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2016 21:08:31 -0700 >> From: Mike Thompson <miketh...@gmail.com> >> To: HOT <hot@openstreetmap.org> >> Subject: [HOT] How to identify oneself when promoting a mapathon? >> Message-ID: >> <CALJoUktwkWH0bxFYWfk8USsO5EoNwipHWG+4Tg0= >> wz94dbj...@mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> A local radio station has agreed to interview me and my co-organizer about >> our upcoming mapathon and the University of Northern Colorado (US). They >> will probably want to introduce me in a manner similar to "Next up is Mike >> with <insert organization name>". Is it permissible to say "...a >> volunteer >> with the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team" even though I am not formally a >> member of HOT? How about "... a volunteer with the Missing Maps Project"? >> >> Mike >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: < >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/hot/attachments/20160216/77a6afe2/attachment-0001.html >> > >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 15 >> Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2016 07:22:14 +0300 >> From: Heather Leson <heatherle...@gmail.com> >> To: Mike Thompson <miketh...@gmail.com> >> Cc: "HOT@OSM \(Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team\)" >> <hot@openstreetmap.org> >> Subject: Re: [HOT] How to identify oneself when promoting a mapathon? >> Message-ID: >> < >> cahjf0t+8-2txtufybru2+++6cnpewrrkcakumehg+uvcrfj...@mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> Hey Mike, you are with Hot as a community volunteer. Thanks for leading! >> >> Heather >> On 17 Feb 2016 07:10, "Mike Thompson" <miketh...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > A local radio station has agreed to interview me and my co-organizer >> about >> > our upcoming mapathon and the University of Northern Colorado (US). They >> > will probably want to introduce me in a manner similar to "Next up is >> Mike >> > with <insert organization name>". Is it permissible to say "...a >> volunteer >> > with the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team" even though I am not formally >> a >> > member of HOT? How about "... a volunteer with the Missing Maps >> Project"? >> > >> > Mike >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > HOT mailing list >> > HOT@openstreetmap.org >> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >> > >> > >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: < >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/hot/attachments/20160217/f99dab7b/attachment-0001.html >> > >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 16 >> Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2016 21:24:27 -0700 >> From: Mike Thompson <miketh...@gmail.com> >> To: Heather Leson <heatherle...@gmail.com> >> Cc: "HOT@OSM \(Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team\)" >> <hot@openstreetmap.org> >> Subject: Re: [HOT] How to identify oneself when promoting a mapathon? >> Message-ID: >> < >> caljouksx93buzlpqe1ydwhppy8vwuj0ef1yw0amwjhxkg_i...@mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> Thanks Heather! >> >> On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 9:22 PM, Heather Leson <heatherle...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> > Hey Mike, you are with Hot as a community volunteer. Thanks for leading! >> > >> > Heather >> > On 17 Feb 2016 07:10, "Mike Thompson" <miketh...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> >> A local radio station has agreed to interview me and my co-organizer >> >> about our upcoming mapathon and the University of Northern Colorado >> (US). >> >> They will probably want to introduce me in a manner similar to "Next >> up is >> >> Mike with <insert organization name>". Is it permissible to say "...a >> >> volunteer with the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team" even though I am >> not >> >> formally a member of HOT? How about "... a volunteer with the Missing >> Maps >> >> Project"? >> >> >> >> Mike >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> HOT mailing list >> >> HOT@openstreetmap.org >> >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >> >> >> >> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: < >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/hot/attachments/20160216/b3c2f869/attachment-0001.html >> > >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 17 >> Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2016 09:08:08 +0300 >> From: Heather Leson <heatherle...@gmail.com> >> To: Martin Dittus <mar...@dekstop.de> >> Cc: "HOT@OSM \(Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team\)" >> <hot@openstreetmap.org> >> Subject: Re: [HOT] HOT in Research - Casual meetup >> Message-ID: >> < >> cahjf0tjuv8x8mwbobhc0hkk6psuhcwkvtuqiwcehzdrf2rl...@mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> Thanks everyone. >> >> The HOT Casual Research mumble chat will be on: >> >> Wednesday, March 2nd, 2016 >> Timezones: 15:00 UTC/18:00 AST/10:00 EST/07:00 PST/ >> >> Duration: 1 hour >> >> >> How to join: >> >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mumble >> >> Agenda: >> Review the Academic Partnership Guide >> Review Research Topics >> Coordinate HOT Research Scramble (collect the existing research) >> Consider future recommendations >> Thanks >> >> Heather >> >> >> Heather Leson >> heatherle...@gmail.com >> Twitter: HeatherLeson >> Blog: textontechs.com >> >> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 10:19 PM, Martin Dittus <mar...@dekstop.de> >> wrote: >> >> > Was just thinking it would be nice to get people closer together! >> > >> > Unfortunately that week coincides with CSCW in SF where I’ll present my >> > first HOT paper :) >> > http://www0.cs.ucl.ac.uk/staff/l.capra/publications/cscw2016.pdf >> (that's >> > work from last summer) >> > >> > But considering how hard scheduling always is I’ll simply try my best to >> > participate from there. >> > >> > m. >> > >> > >> > > On 11 Feb 2016, at 16:26, Heather Leson <heatherle...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > > >> > > HI folks, >> > > >> > > There are a few of us keen to see more research on HOT. Last year >> Robert >> > Soden spearheaded a discussion at the HOT Summit. The results were >> tracked >> > on two wiki pages: >> > > >> > > HOT Research Topics >> > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/HOT_Research_Topics >> > > >> > > >> > > HOT Academic Partnerships >> > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/HOT_Academic_Partnerships >> > > >> > > We'd like to meet others keen to talk about research. Add your times >> by >> > Wednesday, February 17th and we'll firm up a time for the 1st week in >> March. >> > > >> > > Times listed in UTC/GMT >> > > http://doodle.com/poll/ct335p8d32zkp37i >> > > >> > > Call can be on mumble. >> > > >> > > Once we have a time, we'll create a shared doc space for tracking. >> > > >> > > Thanks, >> > > Robert and Heather >> > > >> > > >> > > Heather Leson >> > > heatherle...@gmail.com >> > > Twitter: HeatherLeson >> > > Blog: textontechs.com >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > HOT mailing list >> > > HOT@openstreetmap.org >> > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >> > >> > >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: < >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/hot/attachments/20160217/de894c00/attachment-0001.html >> > >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Subject: Digest Footer >> >> _______________________________________________ >> HOT mailing list >> HOT@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> End of HOT Digest, Vol 72, Issue 18 >> *********************************** >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> HOT mailing list >> HOT@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >> >> >
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