Sorry Blake, Given history there is now way I would do anything under the HOT US inc. banner.
Don't pretend openness in HOT US inc. when alternative views have constantly been repressed since at least 4 or 5 years. By the way there were indeed examples of tasks within the remit of humanitarian action which were rejected or removed, as far as I remember. In addition a debatable definition of what is humanitarian and what is not de facto excluded all training and capacity building actions (even though they had a hum/dev finality). Until last year I had to fight to make HOT US inc. admit tasks.hotosm.org was just for HOT US inc. convenience and have it re-branded "HOT TM", instead of "OSM TM". Rod On 24/10/16 16:15, Blake Girardot wrote: > On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 11:46 AM, Rod Bera <r...@goarem.org> wrote: >> Hi Mikel, >> >>> that's a seperate topic from running an additional unnecessary >>> tasking manager. >> >> to me it's not. >> As I understand things, the fact that a task needs to be >> endorsed/supported by HOT if it is to appear on tasks.hotosm.org is a >> problem. The fact that only co-opted ("trained", "friends") individual >> can post a task is a problem too. >> > > Hi Rod, > > I am not sure where you get this idea, but HOT is always open and very > relaxed in who can post projects. At the moment there are literally > hundreds of people who can post projects on the HOT OSM Tasking > Manager. The only requirement is that it is a humanitarian based > project and that we work as a team within the limitations of the > existing software to focus mapping and come to agreement about project > priorities on a consensus basis, especially during a HOT Activation. > Planned changes to HOT's OSM Tasking Manager software will make that > easier for sure. > > It would be great if people who create projects have some minimum > level of understanding of what makes a good project and how to use the > Tasking Manager software, and we are working on ways to make sure > people do have that knowledge, but it has not prevented anyone from > creating projects on the HOT OSM Tasking Manager install and I add > folks as Project Managers on a regular basis. > > In this case specifically, all of the folks creating mapping projects > on the taches francophone install of HOT's OSM Tasking Manager > software can create projects on HOT's installation (actually they are > full admins on HOT's install so can add project creators as well). The > only thing we ask is that like every activation in the past, they join > the HOT Activation Coordination channel, currently on our public slack > channel[1], and collaborate on projects created so everyone is mapping > on the best possible projects and in conjunction with the folks we are > working with on the ground doing response work and we have consensus > on the projects and their priority. There was never any rejection or > selectivity of any project now or in the past for projects they > created. > > As long as people make an effort to work as a team and in the best > interests of the folks on the ground we are trying to help, everyone > is welcome, both in the activation coordination and to create projects > on HOT's install of the OSM Tasking Manager. > > Cheers, > Blake > > [1]https://hotosm-slack.herokuapp.com/ > > ps: I know Severin, Nico and Pierre are all admins on the HOT Tasking > Manager, if you send me your osm username, I can make sure you are as > well Rod if you would like to create projects on the HOT install. > -- Rod Béra, MCF Géomatique / Lecturer, Geomatics et SIG pour l'Environnement / and Environmental GIS Agrocampus-Ouest|65 r.Saint-Brieuc|CS84215|35042 Rennes cedex|France +33 (0) 223 48 5553 - roderic.b...@agrocampus-ouest.fr _______________________________________________ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot