OK I accept that mapswipe is wonderful. Thanks for the input.
Cheerio John On 26 Mar 2017 12:52 pm, "Pete Masters" <pedrito1...@googlemail.com> wrote: > Hey John, it's not just that its quicker. It is also that different people > can engage with the task. It's hard to contribute if you have a few minutes > through the tasking manager. But you can through MapSwipe. It's also near > impossible to contribute via mobile or on the go. Again MapSwipe makes this > possible. > > Even if it was as quick to do the scanning through JOSM, we are able to > get a whole new group of people involved in the workflow. > > Cheers, > > Pete > > On 26 Mar 2017 17:27, "Jo" <winfi...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi John, >> >> Both possibilities exist. You can 'reserve' a bunch of tile to work on >> while off line, or you can work online. >> >> It's easy to install it and play with it. >> >> Polyglot >> >> 2017-03-26 18:23 GMT+02:00 john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com>: >> >>> So what you're saying is it can scan about as fast as JOSM using >>> <crtl><down arrow>. Does it require an online connection or can it >>> precharge so someone can do it on the bus and upload the results when it >>> gets near WiFi? >>> >>> Thanks John >>> >>> On 26 March 2017 at 12:05, Pete Masters <pedrito1...@googlemail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi all, late to the party, but here are my two cents... >>>> >>>> MapSwipe, anecdotally for now, does save mappers' time. In an area >>>> where little OSM data exists, it can target mappers' efforts where people >>>> (or roads or rivers) exist. In the kind of rural landscapes we deal with a >>>> lot in MSF areas of interest, this cuts down the amount of time spent >>>> 'scanning' for stuff to map significantly. And, MapSwipe users can get >>>> through a large area super fast. >>>> >>>> In the Sierra Leone projects we used it slightly differently. We knew >>>> that Kenema district had been partly mapped through several other >>>> initiatives (Ebola mapping and the American Red Cross West Africa project >>>> for example). We wanted comprehensive data in OSM, so we tasked the area in >>>> MapSwipe and cross referenced the results with existing OSM data. Where >>>> MapSwipers said 'yes, there is a building' but none existed in OSM the area >>>> would be tasked for mapping. Where MapSwipers said 'yes, there is a >>>> building' and building data existed in OSM, we discounted the area from the >>>> tasking. Meaning that mappers were applying affords only where there were >>>> gaps in the data. >>>> >>>> I hope that is of interest. Couple of related points... >>>> >>>> Each area is classified by three different users in MapSwipe, not four. >>>> >>>> Paul Stewart wrote up the process for using Mapswipe to deduplicate >>>> mapping efforts through the tasking manager >>>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/pjstewart1984/diary/40710 >>>> >>>> Disastermappers write here about how to access MapSwipe data and how >>>> they process it https://disastermappers.wordpr >>>> ess.com/2016/11/16/integrating-mapswipe-and-hot-tasking-mana >>>> ger-first-task-online/ >>>> >>>> HOT Summit presentation on MapSwipe and pybossa >>>> https://youtu.be/pRZ_mWn0Lmc >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Pete >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 26 Mar 2017 15:47, "Jo" <winfi...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> It's definitely useful to save actual mapper's time. For validation >>>>> I'm not sure it would be a big help. >>>>> >>>>> Op 26 mrt. 2017 3:12 p.m. schreef "john whelan" <jwhelan0...@gmail.com >>>>> >: >>>>> >>>>>> Would we be better ahead by using something like mapswipe to >>>>>> validate? If a tile is OK there is no need to add to the map from the >>>>>> tool. If three mappers tick it then I would say its good to go. >>>>>> >>>>>> The current system we use four mappers to mapswipe, then a >>>>>> conventional mapper to map followed by a validator. Six passes to get a >>>>>> validated tile. The other way would give you one in four passes three of >>>>>> which would be on smartphones. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheerio John >>>>>> >>>>>> On 26 March 2017 at 09:01, john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> But does it address the concern about how much effort is expended >>>>>>> compared to the value added? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheerio John >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 26 March 2017 at 08:44, Ralf Stephan <gtrw...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Search is your friend. Searching for Mapswipe yields eg >>>>>>>> http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/2521 >>>>>>>> where clearly the tiles are preselected. Also the description: "The >>>>>>>> data are prepared by MapSwipe" >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 2:40 PM john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I seem to recall the same area is mapswiped by four different >>>>>>>>> people before a mapper maps it. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Other than the size of the tile or which area to give priority to >>>>>>>>> I think the advantage is that people can do it anywhere on a >>>>>>>>> smartphone. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I would hesitate to say if it is worth doing or not. In future >>>>>>>>> there might be a way to bring something into OSM via a review process. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Cheerio John >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 26 March 2017 at 08:22, Hakuch <hak...@posteo.de> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 26.03.2017 14:13, john whelan wrote: >>>>>>>>> > My understanding is that mapswipe is only used to identify where >>>>>>>>> to map. >>>>>>>>> > Not to contribute to the map. >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > Cheerio John >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> of course there is no data transmitted to OSM, but how is the data >>>>>>>>> (I >>>>>>>>> mean, marked tiles) used after I transmitted it? 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